Venezuela 'sends tanks to border'

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Well I am no expert on South America, but......

....most of what I am reading is talking about a rapid and concerted South American response against Colombia's incursion, which has taken half pint Uribe and his "extra regional" friends rather by surprise.

A lot of commentators are also raising the eyes at the revelation of cluster bomb proof lap tops. I share their cynicism.

Still just as long as an every growing barrallege of Venezuelan Crude heads Chinawards, thats all that really matters:D
 
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The movement of troops ordered by Venezuela is only defensive, in normal situation Venezuela has approximately 20000 soldiers, due to the Colombian internal conflict, the idea is to reinforce that device and to avoid that they do the same thing that carried out in equator, to violate our sovereignty.

Now the gringos are the ones that are behind all this and in latin-American do not we want an Israel
 
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I can understand Colombia's move to assassinate a FARC leader, but you don't just go into a foreign sovereign territory to do it.

This sets a DANGEROUS precedent. For those of you who take Colombia's and America's side on this issue and follow-up Cuban politics, do you remember who Luis Posada Carriles is?

He's the anti-Castro terrorist who blew up a Cubana Airlines plane and plotted to assassinate Castro. He's now in Miami, Florida or somewhere in the US. If Castro knows where he is, are Cubans also allowed to assassinate him in the US? You probably will say no, because it will violate US sovereign territorial borders and all.

The same issue with this Ecuador-Colombia thing. Colombia violated Ecuadorian borders. They shouldn't have done so without permission. Ecuador has a right to retaliate against Colombia and Ecuador's allies have a right to defend it's own borders (i.e. Venezuela has a right to move it's own troops to it's own borders).

I don't understand why people are being so biased with this issue, just because they're anti-Chavez. Chavez is merely reacting (not initiating, but REACTING) to Colombian violation of internationally set borders.

By reading some of the posts in this thread, it seems like some posters are against world leaders being allowed to move troops within their own borders.
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Good points. Politics make hypocrites of us all.
 
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Venezuela seems to have more support in Latin America than Colombia, and Latin American nations are also accusing Columbia of being manipulated by US leaders. I think Colombia is more interested in continuing their drug exports and resource exports to the US.

Venezuela and Ecuador seems to have won this round based on news pictures of the peace talks. Colombia's president looks uncomfortable or relaxed, but Venezuela's leader (the audacious Chavez) looks happy and energized!

The US media and government seemed to side with Colombia during this stand-off. The US picked the apparently losing team. The US should stop underestimating Chavez, and at least pay him a little respect.
 
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Infra_Man99 said:
Venezuela and Ecuador seems to have won this round based on news pictures of the peace talks.
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News pictures? That doesn't indicate anything. It was Chavez who sent tanks to the border. What did he get out of Colombia? Nothing. It is Chavez who has lost because he had to back down quickly.
 
Baibar of Jalat

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News pictures? That doesn't indicate anything. It was Chavez who sent tanks to the border. What did he get out of Colombia? Nothing. It is Chavez who has lost because he had to back down quickly.
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No definative victor but it would be very foolish of Colombia to launch another attack on foreign soil particularly Venuzela. Uribe have to be superemely confident Chavez would not do anything.

Maybe that was Chavezs intention?
 
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Baibar of Jalat said:
No definative victor but it would be very foolish of Colombia to launch another attack on foreign soil particularly Venuzela.
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If FARC operated out of Venezuela with impunity and Chavez did nothing, Colombia would be justified in doing the same again - you can't protect terrorists.

That said Ecuador recently took more action against FARC so it could be that the recent Colombian action won't have to be repeated if its neighbours do their duty and root out these criminals.
 
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Columbia and Chavez in agreement.

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I guess the lies about him aren't true.

I think the political and military move by Chavez worked. What does this mean?
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The article is not well sourced and does not represent a repudiation of Colombian claims in the least. It represents this (clearly pro-Venezuelan) individual's opinion.

I know this...Chavez went very quickly form heavy duty rhetoric to making nice. That does not sound like he won at all, to the contrary, it sounds like he backed down.

But that is just my opinion...nothing more.
 
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Baibar of Jalat

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If FARC operated out of Venezuela with impunity and Chavez did nothing, Colombia would be justified in doing the same again - you can't protect terrorists.

That said Ecuador recently took more action against FARC so it could be that the recent Colombian action won't have to be repeated if its neighbours do their duty and root out these criminals.
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They are operating with impunity in Venuzala. The leader of Farc is meant to be hospitalised there. Again I believe a firm message has been sent by Chavez, I am not justifing Chavez action but counter balancing the prevelant view on this thread.

It is a matter of opinion who is a criminal, terrorists or a plain threat. Therefore any country is justified in taking military action to protect themselves.
 
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