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what's up bro?
LOL

Nothing...Terran Empire had just already answered my response before my internet went down.

 

[Jura The idiot]

Nothing...Terran Empire had just already answered my response ...

thought only a question could be answered but never mind LOL

you have fun now, I go to bed

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

The Marines have the smallest Logistics chain of all the 4 Military services and Osprey is still a new bird with a little over 200 units with the Obama Sequestration that line was stretched new orders were not placed and the Osprey's 77 configurations don't help as if there are 111 in service and 77 configurations then that means only 2.8 are of the same configuration and if different configurations cannot share parts then you see the problem.
The Marines are notorious for being willing to do whatever it takes to get or keep equipment in the fight. including cannibalizing.

 

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The Marines have the smallest Logistics chain of all the 4 Military services and Osprey is still a new bird with a little over 200 units with the Obama Sequestration that line was stretched new orders were not placed and the Osprey's 77 configurations don't help as if there are 111 in service and 77 configurations then that means only 2.8 are of the same configuration and if different configurations cannot share parts then you see the problem.
The Marines are notorious for being willing to do whatever it takes to get or keep equipment in the fight. including cannibalizing.

I think the Marines and Navy should share logistics with their Osprey's in both people and equipment.

 

[Jura The idiot]

The Marines have the smallest Logistics chain of all the 4 Military services and Osprey is still a new bird with a little over 200 units with the Obama Sequestration that line was stretched new orders were not placed and the Osprey's 77 configurations don't help as if there are 111 in service and 77 configurations then that means only 2.8 are of the same configuration and if different configurations cannot share parts then you see the problem.
The Marines are notorious for being willing to do whatever it takes to get or keep equipment in the fight. including cannibalizing.

OK but the ballyhoo surrounding Ospreys, the zillions spent ... and now cannibalization, that's just crazy

now I really go to bed

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

In all likelihood they will, and would establish a Common standard for a number of parts, but The Navy needs to actually get there Ospreys before they can start sharing. right now the Navy is still waiting for delivery of the CMV22 which will start next year.

 

[Jura The idiot]

In all likelihood they will, and would establish a Common standard for a number of parts, but The Navy needs to actually get there Ospreys before they can start sharing. right now the Navy is still waiting for delivery of the CMV22 which will start next year.

... Osprey is still a new bird ...

wiki says Introduction 13 June 2007
so just the term Charlie Foxtrot comes to my mind

I'm out.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

"New" is relative.

 

[Jura The idiot]

now I read
Roll-On/Roll-Off Capability Key to V-22 Future

The manufacturers of the Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft see future payloads installed in the aircraft’s cargo bay as critical to the expansion of the aircraft’s mission sets.

“The key to everything in the future is the roll-on/roll-off capability,” John Parker, Boeing’s senior manager for Global Sales and Marketing, Tiltrotor Programs, told reporters March 28.

The V-22 has the potential of provide aerial refueling and perform anti-submarine warfare, airborne early warning and gunship missions with different configurations, Parker said. A carrier-onboard delivery version, the CMV-22B, is in development to replace the Navy’s C-2A Greyhound aircraft.

The Marine Corps plans to add an aerial tanker capability to the MV-22B to support its F-35B Lightning II strike fighters onboard amphibious assault ships. The tanker also would be able to refuel other V-22s and CH-53 helicopters deployed in the ships.

Dry runs with a hose-and-reel assembly streaming from the cargo bay were conducted in September 2013.

In May 2016, the Bell-Boeing Joint Program Office was awarded a $58.8 million contract to develop the roll-on/roll-off V-22 Aerial Refueling System (VARS). The V-22 initially will be able to pass 4,000 pounds of fuel to an F-35. The planned capacity will increase to 10,000 pounds with added tankage.

“We’re funded and proceeding with development of that,” Parker said, noting that the VARS can be installed “in a couple of hours.”

Parker also said that weapons trials with the MV-22B have been ongoing, including with guided 2.75-inch rockets, the AGM-176 Griffin missile and two other weapons he was not free to discuss. He said that “everything is an option” to give the MV-22 the capability counter enemy fire in a landing zone, given that the Osprey is too fast for helicopter gunship escort. He said there also the option of turning the Osprey into a “small AC-130-type gunship.”

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[TerraN_EmpirE]

The U.S. Military's V-22 Osprey: “Everything Is An Option”

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March 30, 2017
Bell-Boeing is continuing its work to develop a roll-on/roll-off aerial refueling tanker capability for the company’s MV-22 Osprey tilt-rotor at the behest of the U.S. Marine Corps. If all goes well, the Marines should have an organic aerial refueling capability for their expeditionary strike groups operational by the 2019-2020 timeframe.

The service wants the tanker capability for its fleet of Osprey so that the tilt-rotors would be able to extend the range of the Marines’ F-35B Joint Strike Fighters—which is becoming an increasingly important factor in the Pacific theatre. Dubbed, the VARS—V-22 Aerial Refueling System—the idea is for the Ospreys to top-off the F-35Bs as they takeoff from a large-deck amphibious assault ship with a full load of weapons but not fuel. The Ospreys would also be able to refuel the jets as they return—acting as a recovery tanker.

“The way the Marine Corps has asked for this capability—so you can envision a Joint Strike Fighter coming off an amphib in vertical mode, they can go heavy on ordnance, light on gas,” John Parker, Boeing’s global sales manager for the Osprey told reporters on March 28. “Once they takeoff, the V-22s are overhead to top them off, so they now have the full range and full ordnance to do the strike package. And, oh, by the way, the V-22 can refuel...them coming back in.”

Parker said that the VARS system is funded and development is proceeding apace. The Marine Corps has indicated to Boeing that it wants to deploy the VARS in conjunction with the its F-35Bs in 2019 or later in 2020. The addition of the refueling package would greatly increase the reach of the Navy/Marine Corps expeditionary strike groups—effectively turning those units into small carrier strike groups in many respects.

But Bell-Boeing has not finished with tapping the V-22’s potential. Even with the aerial refueling capability, the Marines would still eventually need an airborne early waning (AEW) capability, which the L-class ships currently lack. Thus, Parker said that Boeing and its engineers are working on a roll-on/roll-off AEW package as well as an anti-submarine warfare (ASW) package, but those are still a few years down the line. There has been significant customer interest for both packages, Parker said.

Parker could not offer any details about the potential performance of a V-22-based AEW system—but it would not be a “poor man’s E-2D.” The ASW package—could be of interest to the U.S. Navy—because the service divested its last fixed-wing carrier-based ASW assets during the late 2000s when the last Lockheed Martin S-3B Viking was pulled from service. However, with the resurgence of the Russian undersea fleet, many have argued for the U.S. Navy to rebuild much atrophied ASW capabilities.

Parker also noted that the Marines and the Air Force are eventually planning on adding more offensive weapons on to future V-22 upgrades. Some of the more ambitious plans could seen various bombs and missiles launched from the Osprey beyond what has currently been disclosed, Parker said. Indeed, he would not rule out directed energy weapons as part of a future weapons package. “We are looking at all sorts of things,” Parker said. “Everything is an option.”

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