USA:The masters of hypocrisy!

9 bucks an hour is like minimum wage in America. Only the illegal immigrants work for 2 bucks an hour picking oranges and grapes (no offense).

seawolf Wrote
sounds like alot of hyproicy and jealousy to me. america has democratic system, and it is the WILL of the people who makes the ultiamte decisions

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Stop decieving yourself... jealousy is definitely not on the scope of things... it's only for self-comfort.

When US went to Iraq, i don't see the decision made by the people... was there a nation wide poll, and i don't mean 2000 phone calls. I remember bush quoting something to the effect that even with only 30% of the willing, we will still invade Iraq.

In fact, most of military exploits were without prior consent with the avg Americans. After some media conditioning, they just go on in. They won and the citizens just go with it... it already happened... broken... what can they do?

The C!A exploits around the world were without the population knowledge and their actions are definately not the will of their people. I believe Avg American are better people than that and will not cause untold torture, misery, death and suffering to millions of third world population.

Face it, the avg Americans don't make any ultimate decisions. In fact, they are only heard after any decision are made and done, and during elections.

Sea Dog said:

Obviously you haven't read UN Resolution 1441. Wenforced the UN's resolution for them, because so many of the officials were involved in an Oil-for-Food corruption. It's amazing what was uncovered about that. You're facts are also totally screwed in regard to the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Conventions doesn't exist to protect terrorists. Only lawful combatants. Go look up and see what a lawful combatant is? Here's another clue. Abu Ghraib was not sanctioned by the Bush administration. And those involved have been punished. And why do you say Christianity and Islam are hated religions????? By who? Why do you bash people of these two faiths?

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islam= Bombs everyone, secretive and enjoys killing christians. Heres an example. My principal in High School was a missionary in a small village in mindanao. The armers in that village must carry guns and body guards when plowing the fields becasue islamic militants plus christian farmers equals target practice. A number of times he said these islamic militants would invade there village to steal there grain. They even tak home some people to use as pit fighters. When they attack villages the people were suppose to go down a mud pit. everyone who talked, denied or fought were shot. He as a missionary was nearly killed but they did kill his assistant.

Christian= I love these morons. Everyone goes to hell except them. They preached there doom saying to some naive, impressionable people that there going to hell if they dont join them then tax them. 16th century S.E. asia and then 19th century East ASia are good examples. They did not penetrate East asia as easily because of Islam. Read up on these books Noli me Tanghere and El filibusterismo youll know why. Thats only two books. As for today there are still some people like this. Some of them use the bible to cash in on there own brand of christianity because they figured it out. Its a shame though there in Philippine, China, Malaysian prisons. e

BrotherofSnake said:

9 bucks an hour is like minimum wage in America. Only the illegal immigrants work for 2 bucks an hour picking oranges and grapes (no offense).

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There is no minimal wage in the USa. It depends on the Union you're with, but you haven't got minimal wages in the USA. If you're not in a union (70% of Us active labor force) the contract is individual and you can get screwed up easily.
A belgian friend of mine has been payed 6 bucks per hour on a presshop in L.A.

BrotherofSnake said:

9 bucks an hour is like minimum wage in America. Only the illegal immigrants work for 2 bucks an hour picking oranges and grapes (no offense).

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I personally know people in the US working for less than 9 bucks an hour, and they're Americans not immigrants, and its not just 1 or 2 people. If you look at some of the documentaries that Americans made, maybe like Michael Moore, it might shred some new light into your prespective on how poor alot of the Americans really are, and how much support America is really getting in the US and around the world.

You cannot judge a religion by the behave of a small group of people. Sometimes people commit crime in the name of religion. While you may have seen some Islamic militant, at the same time I've seen many honest good-behaving and law-bidding Muslins.

Sea Dog said:

Obviously you haven't read UN Resolution 1441. We enforced the UN's resolution for them, because so many of the officials were involved in an Oil-for-Food corruption. It's amazing what was uncovered about that. You're facts are also totally screwed in regard to the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Conventions doesn't exist to protect terrorists. Only lawful combatants. Go look up and see what a lawful combatant is? Here's another clue. Abu Ghraib was not sanctioned by the Bush administration. And those involved have been punished. And why do you say Christianity and Islam are hated religions????? By who? Why do you bash people of these two faiths?

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1441 was a final ultimatum to the Iraqis to get rid of their WMDs (which they didn't have, its two and a half years later and still no sign!, so there was no way that they could have complied with it anyway) it didn't really have anything to do with oil for food.

Also isn't it a bit hyocritical of the US to be so keen to launch a war on Iraq over tis failure to comply with a UN resolution but yet it completely ignores israel's failure to comply with the various UN resolutions against its illegal settlemants in the west bank! ( one of many reasons for anti american feeling in the middle east and elsewhere in the world)

On your other point about the rights of terrorists you mention that they have no rights under the Geneva convention (even though they are effectively combatants in Bushs war on 'Terror'). This may be the case however they still hav e rights as human beings as set out in the for example..

Article 5.
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

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Article 9.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

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The US However has shown a complete disregard for this document in its war on terrorism which is a vwar it can never win as the more countries like Iraq it invades the more terrorists it is going to create as more and more people in the middle east will wrongly percieve the US government as being hell bent on the destruction of Islam!

BrotherofSnake said:

9 bucks an hour is like minimum wage in America. Only the illegal immigrants work for 2 bucks an hour picking oranges and grapes (no offense).

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Federal minimum wage is: $5.15 per hour. It is up to each state to choose and mandate its minimum wage and majority of the states opt for the Federal standard of $5.15.
See Department of Labor website:


A lot of people will be very happy if they are making $9 per hour, people working at Micky D, BK, etc.....

Dongfeng said:

You cannot judge a religion by the behave of a small group of people. Sometimes people commit crime in the name of religion. While you may have seen some Islamic militant, at the same time I've seen many honest good-behaving and law-bidding Muslins.

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well, i had a muslim in my class. she skipped clas like every day, and did badly in classes. detetions follow.

but there are good muslims, but never offend ones religion.

I have had guys dichting out classes in my class...bu they wheren't muslims???? (you get my point?)

Anyway lets cut out the "good muslim-bad muslim" -type of things...ok?