US to shoot down disabled spy satellite

SteelBird

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A proverb comes to my mind, "One can burn a house, while another cannot boil an egg". What I worry is this going to start a new (space)arm race. All my best wishes for world peace!
 

Finn McCool

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Navy missile hits spy satellite By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer
7 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A missile launched from a Navy ship struck a dying U.S. spy satellite passing 130 miles over the Pacific on Wednesday, the Pentagon said.

It was not clear whether the operation succeeded in its main goal of destroying a tank aboard the satellite that carried a toxic fuel that U.S. officials said could pose a hazard to humans if it landed in a populated area.

"Confirmation that the fuel tank has been fragmented should be available within 24 hours," the Pentagon said in a written statement.

The USS Lake Erie, armed with an SM-3 missile designed to knock down incoming missiles — not orbiting satellites — launched the attack at 10:26 p.m. EST, according to the Pentagon. It hit the satellite as the spacecraft traveled at more than 17,000 mph.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A missile launched from a Navy ship successfully struck a dying U.S. spy satellite passing 130 miles over the Pacific on Wednesday, a defense official said. Full details were not immediately available.

It happened just after 10:30 p.m. EST.

Two officials said the missile was launched successfully. One official, who is close to the process, said it hit the target. He said details on the results were not immediately known.

The goal in this first-of-its-kind mission for the Navy was not just to hit the satellite but to obliterate a tank aboard the spacecraft carrying 1,000 pounds of a toxic fuel called hydrazine.

U.S. officials have said the fuel would pose a potential health hazard to humans if it landed in a populated area. Although the odds of that were small even if the Pentagon had chosen not to try to shoot down the satellite, it was determined that it was worth trying to eliminate even that small chance.

Officials said it might take a day or longer to know for sure if the toxic fuel was blown up.

This test, or operation, was successful. The US certainly avoided major embarassment, and an element of the ABM system performed as planned in a real world situation for the first time.
 

swimmerXC

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The Chinese target satellite was at 860 kilometers up, that's not going to fool anyone on the basis that it has a decaying orbit or it will be a danger to anyone. That's way way up higher than the ISS by more than double.

Still, it will make the US look hypocritical as such details would not be of concern to the average person on Earth.

It will make a good demonstration of the SM-3 ABM capabilities though. But if it fails though it would be embarrassing.

The reason why the US has to shoot it down despite having propellant on board is that the satellite is no longer under control.

$60 million and pride goes down the drain if they missed :eek:

I wonder why they didn't let CNN cover it...
 

Quickie

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Any chance the whole exercise is premeditated - from the spy satellite getting out of control to everything that happens onward?
 
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Pointblank

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Any chance the whole exercise is premeditated - from the spy satellite getting out of control to everything that happens onward?

Not likely. Spy satellite's are damned expensive. There has to be a very good reason why you want to blow up a brand new satellite, and just to test if your missile's work isn't one of them.
 
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How is China's ASAT test seen as hostile since it only shot down one of it's own satellites.

"Hostile" might be an exaggeration, but China's was unsettling for many countries because:

a) the US and Russia had imposed a moritorium on such tests previously
b) there was no notice of the test
c) there was no need to destroy the satellite other than to test the weapon
d) the debris from it will take a long time to fall into the atmosphere

In comparison it is estimated something like half of the debris from the US operation will fall into the atmosphere less than 24 hours afterwards. There was also a real need for the launch, either due to the toxic substances on-board or the security risk.
 

Quickie

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Not likely. Spy satellite's are damned expensive. There has to be a very good reason why you want to blow up a brand new satellite, and just to test if your missile's work isn't one of them.


When things get premeditated, things may not be exactly what it's supposed to be - that including the spy satellite. For all we know, it may have included a remote controlled detonation device just in case things didn't work out as planned. Of course this is all just a hypothesis whithout proof but I just find it odd that after so many decades of sending satellites (spy satellites included) into space , they now suddenly find it necessary to shoot down a wayward satellite. More so when this happened after a similar related event occurred just about a short year ago.
 

AssassinsMace

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"Hostile" might be an exaggeration, but China's was unsettling for many countries because:

a) the US and Russia had imposed a moritorium on such tests previously
b) there was no notice of the test
c) there was no need to destroy the satellite other than to test the weapon
d) the debris from it will take a long time to fall into the atmosphere

In comparison it is estimated something like half of the debris from the US operation will fall into the atmosphere less than 24 hours afterwards. There was also a real need for the launch, either due to the toxic substances on-board or the security risk.

Unsettling to countries that have satellites that may be used in an attack. Sounds like self-defense.

Where does it say China was a part of that agreement between Russia and the US. Did they consult China? No, so they can't claim something was broken.

The US knew China conducted two previous ASAT tests and said nothing.

Western experts, not the neo-con alarmists and anti-China haters, say the debris is negligible. It's over an year now and no such incident to report caused by the ASAT test. A year of debris to spread out and not ever a threat. You didn't know the orbit of the Earth is filled with natural garbage in the first place. As was pointed out by science, how do you think the Earth was formed?

And I read that the satellite was slowed down so the orbit would decay. So the hazard to the earth was man-made and intentional in the first place.

So China can't develop this for such an emergency of its own?
 

Pointblank

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When things get premeditated, things may not be exactly what it's supposed to be - that including the spy satellite. For all we know, it may have included a remote controlled detonation device just in case things didn't work out as planned. Of course this is all just a hypothesis whithout proof but I just find it odd that after so many decades of sending satellites (spy satellites included) into space , they now suddenly find it necessary to shoot down a wayward satellite. More so when this happened after a similar related event occurred just about a short year ago.

This satellite has over a ton of rocket fuel that is poisonous to people. They are aiming to hit the fuel tank to vent the fuel from the tank, not to shoot it down directly. That's why even if this was a successful intercept of the satellite, it might be a mission failure because they failed to hit the fuel tank. And right now, they have another two chances, 1 more missile onboard USS Lake Erie, and another on USS Decatur.
 

Quickie

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This satellite has over a ton of rocket fuel that is poisonous to people. They are aiming to hit the fuel tank to vent the fuel from the tank, not to shoot it down directly. That's why even if this was a successful intercept of the satellite, it might be a mission failure because they failed to hit the fuel tank. And right now, they have another two chances, 1 more missile onboard USS Lake Erie, and another on USS Decatur.

Two more chances? Wow... This all sounded so... necessary. :D
 
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