US Strike Group ordered to Gulf

BLUEJACKET

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Re: US Strike Group ordered to Gulf- NYT article

U.S. and Britain to Add Ships to Persian Gulf in Signal to Iran
By THOM SHANKER

WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 — The United States and Britain will begin moving additional warships and strike aircraft into the Persian Gulf region in a display of military resolve toward Iran that will come as the United Nations continues to debate possible sanctions against the country, Pentagon and military officials said Wednesday.

The officials said that Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates was expected this week to approve a request by commanders for a second aircraft carrier and its supporting ships to be stationed within quick sailing distance of Iran by early next year.

Senior American officers said the increase in naval power should not be viewed as preparations for any offensive strike against Iran. But they acknowledged that the ability to hit Iran would be increased and that Iranian leaders might well call the growing presence provocative. One purpose of the deployment, they said, is to make clear that the focus on ground troops in Iraq has not made it impossible for the United States and its allies to maintain a military watch on Iran. That would also reassure Washington’s allies in the region who are concerned about Iran’s intentions.

The officials said the planned growth in naval power in the gulf and surrounding waters would be useful in enforcing any sanctions that the United Nations might impose as part of Washington’s strategy to punish Iran for what it sees as ambitions to acquire nuclear weapons. And the buildup would address another concern: that Iran could try to block oil shipments from the gulf in retaliation for United Nations sanctions or other American-led pressure.

Steps are already being taken to increase the number of minesweeping vessels and magnetic “sleds” carried by helicopters to improve the ability to counter Iranian mines that could block oil-shipping lanes, Pentagon and military officials said.

As part of future deployments after the first of the year, the British Navy plans to add two mine-hunting vessels to its ships that already are part of the international coalition patrolling waters in the Persian Gulf.

..The aircraft carrier Eisenhower and its strike group — including three escort ships, an attack submarine and 6,500 sailors in all — entered the Persian Gulf on Dec. 11 after a naval exercise to practice halting vessels suspected of smuggling nuclear materials in waters across the region. A carrier had not been inside the gulf since the Enterprise left in July, according to Pentagon officials. The next carrier scheduled to sail toward the Middle East is the Stennis, already set to depart Bremerton, Wash., for the region in late January, Navy officers said.

Officials expressed doubt that the Stennis and its escorts would be asked to set sail before the holiday season, but it could be ordered to sea several weeks earlier than planned. It could then overlap for months with the Eisenhower, which is not scheduled to return home until May, offering ample time to decide whether to send another carrier or to extend the Eisenhower’s tour to keep the carrier presence at two.

Doubling the number of carriers in the region offers commanders the flexibility of either keeping both strike groups in the gulf or keeping one near Iran while placing a second carrier group outside the gulf, where it would be in position to fly combat patrols over Afghanistan or cope with growing violence in the Horn of Africa.
But these same officials acknowledge that Iran is the focus of any new deployments, as administration officials view recent bold moves by Iran — and by North Korea, as well — as at least partly explained by assessments in Tehran and North Korea that the American military is bogged down in Iraq and incapable of fully projecting power elsewhere. ..
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This looks like a lot more than just psywar- remember what preceded '03 Iraqi Freedom"? Huge naval buildup, while "diplomacy was given a chance"!
 

bd popeye

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I don't trust the source of this article. The New York Times. It is a left wing rag that has done more against the war on terror than any other publication in the US.

The NYT and other liberal publications in the US always put a doom & gloom prespective on the WOT or the US military.- These publications put their stupid spin on military moves as if they really know something. According to them the US has been ready to strike Iran for the last 2.5 years.. To me they seem to be rooting for the very people that rae trying to destroy or disrupt the US and the west.

I'm going to check and see when the Stennis is due to deploy....We shall see.
 
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Totoro

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It is not just NYT, I've seen it on CNN and BBC World, too. That being said, I do believe additional carrier, even if deployed, will mean nothing more than what's said in the article here - just a show of force.
If there's any real action coming up, there'd be some heavy USAAF beef up happening to announce it.
 

BLUEJACKET

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Not necesseraly. The USAF can use long range bombers based in CONUS, UK, Guam & Diego Garsia- the last 3 bases can announce their arrival as "routine deployment" if they aren't already there. Also, there are enough B-1s & probably B-52 based in Oman, not to mention A-10s & F-16s in and around Iraq & Afghanistan!
 

Neutral Zone

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If America wanted to use it's planes in Afghanistan against Iran, then wouldn't the Karzai government have to give it's consent?
 

The_Zergling

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If America wanted to use it's planes in Afghanistan against Iran, then wouldn't the Karzai government have to give it's consent?

Technically yes, but recent actions have shown that lack of unilateral support hasn't stopped us Americans from doing what we want. On a side note, the UN security council voted to impose sanctions on Iran today, something of note is that Russia went along with it - when previously it favored diplomacy over force.
 

Sczepan

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I don't trust the source of this article. The New York Times. It is a left wing rag that has done more against the war on terror than any other publication in the US.

The NYT and other liberal publications in the US always put a doom & gloom prespective on the WOT or the US military.- .....
There was no links between Saddam and Al Quaida (in opposide to Saudis wahabism. and Al Quaida) - but now we have a lot of terror organisations in Irak.
To invade this land was the biggest mistake, US have done after Vietnam and Somalia ....

as I know (german sources):
USS JOHN C. STENNIS CBG is ready to go in the first week of January,
and accoriding to Navy Times KITTY HAWK (Yokosuka/Japan), ENTERPRISE (Norfolk) RONALD REAGAN and NIMITZ (both San Diego) are in „Surge Deployment“.
 
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Finn McCool

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as I know (german sources):
USS JOHN C. STENNIS CBG is ready to go in the first week of January,
and accoriding to Navy Times KITTY HAWK (Yokosuka/Japan), ENTERPRISE (Norfolk) RONALD REAGAN and NIMITZ (both San Diego) are in „Surge Deployment“.

Surge Deployment? I don't think that's right. That would mean they would arrive off Iran quite a while before the John C. Stennis if the Stennis was reasy to go in the first week of January. Besides the UN just put sanctions on Iran-the US should let diplomacy work.

But aside from that, this is interesting as 4 carriers is the number I predicted they would need to use.
 

bd popeye

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Surge Deployment? I don't think that's right.

I don't think so. News sources that are unfilimar with the USN often just speculate on these matters.

CVN-74 finished a 11 month re-fit last December 2005. And has been in training since then. It is now ready to deploy.
 

Finn McCool

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I don't think so. News sources that are unfilimar with the USN often just speculate on these matters.

CVN-74 finished a 11 month re-fit last December 2005. And has been in training since then. It is now ready to deploy.

That happens so much. I honestly think that writers or editors just throw words like "surge deployment" into their stories just to make its sound cool. Read the articles about the war in Somalia. They were obviously written by people without much military knowledge.

Anyway I do not believe that any operation against Iran is coming soon because we would see every talking head on TV screaming about the Iranian Threat and it would fill the newspapers. That hasn't really happened yet.
 
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