US Navy DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class

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test bd said:
What sort of diversity are you referring to? Please explain. Thank you.
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To be absolutely honest as I wrote that statement, in the frontal lobe of my mind the thought was, "BD Popeye, would get this krap back into ship shape and get it working, I have ultimate confidence in you Brother, as my Brother in Christ, and as my friend! but also as a Sailors Sailor, if they all had the attitude you do, we wouldn't be having a lot of these unnecessary little "snafus"!
 
bd popeye

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Thanks for the kind words AFB..I don't know how well I'd be suited for today's Navy. I really don't. I'm old fashioned......

Well the Ford and the Zummie are very complex, very high tech, and ultimately will be very effective fighting machines, they are going to challenge us all to bring them up to their full capabilities, and they will be capable, but it takes lots of money and hard work to be the best.
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Here in lies the problem these new ships are very complex. And I'm sure that there are sailors that have difficulty operating and maintaining this new-fangled gear. So be it. But it does not have to stay that way. Training methods manuals etc can be made less complex and still get the job done.

There's an old saying we use to have K.I.S.S..Keep It Simple Stupid. And that's what needs to be done to this new-fangled gear aboard these new classes of ships.

Arliegh Burke, Nimitz and Ticonderoga class ships do quite well thank you....K.I.S.S.
 
Equation

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Don't get me wrong, I like the design of the Zumwalt Class destroyer, BUT...what da frack just happen? And what is "engineer casualty"?o_O

High-tech US stealth ship breaks down in Panama Canal

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November 22, 2016


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The guided-missile destroyer USS Zumwalt (DDG 1000) transits Naval Station Mayport Harbor on October 25, 2016 (AFP Photo/PO2 Timothy Schumaker)
Washington (AFP) - America's newest warship, the super high-tech USS Zumwalt, broke down in the Panama Canal just a few weeks after the vessel was commissioned, the Navy and reports said Tuesday.

The guided missile destroyer, whose stealth capabilities give it a strikingly angular shape, needed to be towed Monday to a nearby former US naval station after suffering an "engineering casualty," the US Naval Institute's news site reported.

The Zumwalt was en route from Baltimore, where she was commissioned October 15, to San Diego.

Navy spokesman Commander Ryan Perry said in a statement that "the timeline for repairs is being determined now."

"The schedule for the ship will remain flexible to enable testing and evaluation in order to ensure the ship's safe transit to her new homeport in San Diego," Perry said.

An unnamed defense official told USNI News that repairs to the Zumwalt could take up to 10 days.

The $4.3 billion Zumwalt is the first in a new line of revolutionary guided missile destroyers.

The ship is 600 feet (roughly 180 meters) long and weighs nearly 15,000 tons, making it the largest destroyer in the US fleet.

But thanks to its angled hull and deck house, it is designed to look no bigger than a fishing boat on radar.

Its motors are electric powered, driven by an innovative integrated power system that may one day also support an array of energy-intensive weapons like lasers and electromagnetic rail guns.
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Equation said:
Don't get me wrong, I like the design of the Zumwalt Class destroyer, BUT...what da frack just happen? And what is "engineer casualty"?o_O



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Well, as BD stated, they are very complex, think F-35 for the water, the powerplant propulsion system is a wonder of engineering. Apparently sea water entered the shaft "bearing housings" and seawater is an instant killer of "precision machined" likely "very close tolerance" shaft to bearing clearance, which is designed to "float" on a "film" of oil for lubrication.

Sea water was able to penetrate the very tight seals??? and it breaks down that film of lubricant, and then heat builds, bearing and shaft get very warm, hot, expand, and finally "sieze".

this is a "land-lubbers" very crude assessment, if you know more or want to do some re-search, feel free to "educate us", you're not going to offend me if my assessment is "all wet", pun intended.
 
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I will admit that all the causalities one after another with the LCS and now the two with the Zumwalt are embarrassing.

But as popeye says, this does happen.

The Zumwalts and the LCS will get the help they need...the funding for up tempoed training and maintenance which sounds like what they have been facing and I would not doubt for a moment under this current admin.

But if yu have the right regiment and fund it...these things will imrpove and go away.

Trust me on this. Ultimately the Zumwalts will be regarded as the most capable surface combatants with high degrees of stealth on the ocean, and the LCS will finally stand up into the FFG role they should have been designed for from the beginning.

We have had one embarrassment after another under this admin...I honestly believe some adults are abot to be put in harge and things will improve rapidly.

Thats what good management can do.

Watch and see.
 
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Lethe said:
Anyone care to confirm/deny the information stated
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that only 90 LRLAP rounds were purchased prior to the recent cancellation?

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I wouldn't be surprised based on
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The Answer Is 35
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which quotes “These tests bring us closer to completing the 35 tests required by the U.S. Navy to demonstrate the maturity and performance of the system,” said Richard Benton, LRLAP program manager at Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control.

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it's unbelievable what manufacturers are able to spin into a tremendous success
 
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bd popeye said:
I've been scouring the internet looking for info on the repairs of Zumwalt in Panama. I can find nothing. The USN is sure closed mouth on this one.:confused:
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I saw this picture from down there last week:
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bd popeye said:
I want to know what is going on...period.
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I'm curious how 'sidelined' LCSs are doing, how their Mission Modules are doing, how EMALS is doing, how AAG is doing, how the CVN-78 (over 13 bil now) is doing, ... at one point I'll pull out my rants about 'concurrency' again
 
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bd popeye said:
I've been scouring the internet looking for info on the repairs of Zumwalt in Panama. I can find nothing. The USN is sure closed mouth on this one.:confused:

I want to know what is going on...period.
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Jura said:
I saw this picture from down there last week:
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I'm curious how 'sidelined' LCSs are doing, how their Mission Modules are doing, how EMALS is doing, how AAG is doing, how the CVN-78 (over 13 bil now) is doing, ... at one point I'll pull out my rants about 'concurrency' again
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Thinking a nice pics in this unusual location and :eek::confused: Smiley banghead.PNG
 
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