US Navy DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class
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It's going to be a GREAT vessel.Because the hull of this ship gets wider towards to water line, it reminds me the ww1 warships. It is retro, like it
Kwaig asked on another thread about the lack of openings for anchors and mooring. I am not 100% sure, but I believe the anchors drop from towards the bottom of the hull and are pulled up into anchor rooms there. Have to check that out and verify though.
The cleats and other mooring equipment are all retractable.
My biggest concern with the Zumwalt class is the manning.
130 crew members seems very small for this vessel. I understand it. It is highly automated. My concerns stems from combat. If they take some significant hits and casualties, will they have enough brute force manpower to do the necessary damage control while still fighting the ship.
130 just seems way too small for a vessel this size in a combat situation.
Automation is great. Redundancy in power is great...and they have designed a very impressive integrated power system with several redundant busses running the length of the ship on both starboard and port sides which can all take all the load if necessary. But still, when missiles or gun fire come crashing in, heck, they can pass entirely through the ship, even with the PVLS being designed to absorb hits.
They cannot become too dependent on all the wiz-bang and bling. It takes people to fix damage. It takes people to fight a ship. So as impressed as I am with the vessels (and I am) I am still concerned about the manning.
shen
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Because the hull of this ship gets wider towards to water line, it reminds me the ww1 warships. It is retro, like it
a bit earlier, tumblehome hull was popular in some predreadnaught navies, especially with the French.
read about all the problems with the French ships.
very similar problem today.
Zumwalt Anchor Handling System
The anchor for the USS Zumwalt class is released from under the hull, from an anchor room there, between the two gun stations forward. Drops right out of the hull and is raised back into its compartment.
If you look at the following Post Graduate Thesis by Joanna M. Carter of Northrop Grumman, Pascagoula, Mississippi, while attending the US Navy Post Graduate School in Monterey, CA, from pages 34-36 she compares anchor handling on the USS Constitution sailing frigate to the handling system on the USS Zumwalt:
The Zumwalt's anchor is highly automated and is designed to be operated by a single sailor, while the Constitution had six anchors and it took 150 sailors to operate them. The cap stands on the Zumwalt are below deck, so they cannot be seen by enemy radars. The entire system drops from there straight down so the anchor is dropped out of the bottom of the hull.
So there you are. I had read this in various forums and discussed on the USNI page, but this is the first more official documentation I had seen.
Ok, I did some more checking and I can now confirm.
The anchor for the USS Zumwalt class is released from under the hull, from an anchor room there, between the two gun stations forward. Drops right out of the hull and is raised back into its compartment.
If you look at the following Post Graduate Thesis by Joanna M. Carter of Northrop Grumman, Pascagoula, Mississippi, while attending the US Navy Post Graduate School in Monterey, CA, from pages 34-36 she compares anchor handling on the USS Constitution sailing frigate to the handling system on the USS Zumwalt:
The Zumwalt's anchor is highly automated and is designed to be operated by a single sailor, while the Constitution had six anchors and it took 150 sailors to operate them. The cap stands on the Zumwalt are below deck, so they cannot be seen by enemy radars. The entire system drops from there straight down so the anchor is dropped out of the bottom of the hull.
So there you are. I had read this in various forums and discussed on the USNI page, but this is the first more official documentation I had seen.
Re: Zumwalt Anchor Handling System
Side mounted anchors were always something of a problem for ships with big sonar domes under the forefoot, and care had to be taken when anchoring to ensure the anchor chain does not damage the sonar dome as the ship swing with wind and tide while at anchor.
It looks this won't be a problem for the zumwalt, unless she has very little water indeed under her keel.
Ok, I did some more checking and I can now confirm.
The anchor for the USS Zumwalt class is released from under the hull, from an anchor room there, between the two gun stations forward. Drops right out of the hull and is raised back into its compartment.
If you look at the following Post Graduate Thesis by Joanna M. Carter of Northrop Grumman, Pascagoula, Mississippi, while attending the US Navy Post Graduate School in Monterey, CA, from pages 34-36 she compares anchor handling on the USS Constitution sailing frigate to the handling system on the USS Zumwalt:
The Zumwalt's anchor is highly automated and is designed to be operated by a single sailor, while the Constitution had six anchors and it took 150 sailors to operate them. The cap stands on the Zumwalt are below deck, so they cannot be seen by enemy radars. The entire system drops from there straight down so the anchor is dropped out of the bottom of the hull.
So there you are. I had read this in various forums and discussed on the USNI page, but this is the first more official documentation I had seen.
Side mounted anchors were always something of a problem for ships with big sonar domes under the forefoot, and care had to be taken when anchoring to ensure the anchor chain does not damage the sonar dome as the ship swing with wind and tide while at anchor.
It looks this won't be a problem for the zumwalt, unless she has very little water indeed under her keel.
They are there. Just taped over in those new pics probably for painting. In some of the earlier construction pics you can see them. Here's where they are and how she will look.
...and, OBTW, the USS Zumwalt is going to be commanded by Capt. James Kirk. No joke, that's his actual name. Maybe later in his career, in about ten years when she is building, he can be the PCU commander for the USS Enterprise, CVN-80. That would be a kick!
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kwaigonegin
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Re: Zumwalt Anchor Handling System
thanks! I knew something like that is probably it when I didn't see the hawse or anchors in the pre launch pictures.
Ok, I did some more checking and I can now confirm.
The anchor for the USS Zumwalt class is released from under the hull, from an anchor room there, between the two gun stations forward. Drops right out of the hull and is raised back into its compartment.
If you look at the following Post Graduate Thesis by Joanna M. Carter of Northrop Grumman, Pascagoula, Mississippi, while attending the US Navy Post Graduate School in Monterey, CA, from pages 34-36 she compares anchor handling on the USS Constitution sailing frigate to the handling system on the USS Zumwalt:
The Zumwalt's anchor is highly automated and is designed to be operated by a single sailor, while the Constitution had six anchors and it took 150 sailors to operate them. The cap stands on the Zumwalt are below deck, so they cannot be seen by enemy radars. The entire system drops from there straight down so the anchor is dropped out of the bottom of the hull.
So there you are. I had read this in various forums and discussed on the USNI page, but this is the first more official documentation I had seen.
thanks! I knew something like that is probably it when I didn't see the hawse or anchors in the pre launch pictures.
thunderchief
Senior Member
Lets be realistic , Zumwalt (and any other modern ship , except large aircraft carriers ) is not designed to survive hits and to keep on fighting . Armor of modern warships are their SAMs and CIWSs . In case of hit with average ASM there would be casualties and there would be damage , most likely enough to mission-kill said vessel .
Modern surface naval combat would not be prolonged affair like in WW1 and WW2 . Instead , everything would happen pretty fast from the moment of initial detection until the end of engagement . Submarine action would last longer , but that is different ball game .