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For those vessels that still have the reloading crane fitted, it is diffcult, but possible. The missiles would either be heloed in, or brought in alongside, and reloaded with the crane. But the Tomohawks and the new TBMs are too heavy for the crane. Basically, it hasn't been done because the US has not been in any kind of extreme circumstance requiring it and now on the flight IIA Burkes and on later Ticos they added that three extra missile capacity to each Mk 41 and took out the reload crane.
I found the following interesting discussion regardig this on
I personally believe it is a mistake because, even in an emergency, it would be nice while at sea, and in the midst of combat operations of that magnitude, to be able to reload, even if it took an extra day or two to get it all done. That would still be better than having to sail all the way back to port.
The entire discussion is quite interesting.
Also, check out the following link:
The second to the last paragraph indicates that the Navy continues to look hard at making the at sea replenishment of VLS a reality. Testing in 2006 was supposed to go ahead for reloading Tomohawks (the heaviest) and I am interested in finding out how that went.
Actually, until recently, there was a reloading crane that took up three cells for replenishment at sea in the Mk 41 VLS blocks. That's why the capacity for those cells for so long was 61 missiles instead of 64.No they cannot be reloaded at sea. The ship needs to be inport. The reloading is not that difficult.
For those vessels that still have the reloading crane fitted, it is diffcult, but possible. The missiles would either be heloed in, or brought in alongside, and reloaded with the crane. But the Tomohawks and the new TBMs are too heavy for the crane. Basically, it hasn't been done because the US has not been in any kind of extreme circumstance requiring it and now on the flight IIA Burkes and on later Ticos they added that three extra missile capacity to each Mk 41 and took out the reload crane.
I found the following interesting discussion regardig this on
I personally believe it is a mistake because, even in an emergency, it would be nice while at sea, and in the midst of combat operations of that magnitude, to be able to reload, even if it took an extra day or two to get it all done. That would still be better than having to sail all the way back to port.
Naval Doctrrine Discussion said:VLS Capabilities and Limitations: Reload and Loadout. A warship cannot live without fuel, but it cannot fight without ammunition. As weapons systems become increasingly complex and specialized, the ability of a weapons platform to execute a given mission is increasingly tied to its reserves of a specific munition. If the AEGIS CG demonstrates superior endurance for the remote NTW mission, that advantage is squandered if the ship carries an insufficient loadout of NTW interceptors.
If all its SM3 missiles are gone after two days on-station, the CG's superior fuel reserves are rendered irrelevant. Except as a sensor or cueing platform, the ship is useless for NTW and is probably out of position for any of the other missions it is potentially capable of performing. Furthermore, unlike fuel, VLS reloads cannot be provided on station. The ship must leave its patrol area and proceed to port, perhaps taking itself out of the fight entirely.
As originally designed, the Mk41 vertical launching system and its variants have a nominal underway replenishment capability. The practical limits of this capability are sufficiently great that in the late 1980s, the Center for Naval Analyses (CNA) studied a series of possible improvements. The results of that study, driven by the old Soviet regimental raid threat, are still relevant in light of the emerging TBMD mission.
Looking at older ship classes, CNA found that "typical rates for the transfer of large missiles between ships at sea [were] on the order of two to six missiles per hour."64 In regard to VLS, "limited testing of the VLS UNREP system indicates the fleet can expect about 3 missiles per hour as a consistent strike-down rate in calm seas (sea state 3 or less)."
The entire discussion is quite interesting.
Also, check out the following link:
The second to the last paragraph indicates that the Navy continues to look hard at making the at sea replenishment of VLS a reality. Testing in 2006 was supposed to go ahead for reloading Tomohawks (the heaviest) and I am interested in finding out how that went.
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