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siegecrossbow

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I'm thinking exactly the same thing as you. As far as I know, China's J-10 aerobatics team uses lighter stripped down airframes that are actually more maneuverable but not combat ready because they don't have to be. I'd understand if the US just used standard F-18 cus they want to keep them combat-worthy but I really don't understand why they would use Growlers which are the most expensive F-18 variant with weight and maneuverability penalties due to the added EW equipment.
J-10s in August 1st actually do retain combat capability. They can be used for combat patrol at a moments notice, not that it’s likely.
 

manqiangrexue

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J-10s in August 1st actually do retain combat capability. They can be used for combat patrol at a moments notice, not that it’s likely.
Are you sure? I don't remember where I heard it originally but a quick Google AI query seems to say that they have their radars removed for balancing ballasts and combat gear removed for lighter smoke tanks to generate the colored contrails. The lighter configuration allows for higher TWR. I tried to check Google's sources but they're videos I don't have time to go through so I'm not sure.
 

siegecrossbow

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Are you sure? I don't remember where I heard it originally but a quick Google AI query seems to say that they have their radars removed for balancing ballasts and combat gear removed for lighter smoke tanks to generate the colored contrails. The lighter configuration allows for higher TWR. I tried to check Google's sources but they're videos I don't have time to go through so I'm not sure.
Nope. This was disclosed when they interviewed August 1st in the early 2010s when they switched to using J-10.

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“八一”飞行表演队在换装歼-10A后,并非像国外的飞行表演队一样,专职进行飞行表演,实际上他们在训练之余还要担负战备值班的任务。这估计是由于新战机的产能不足,空军所做出的妥协之举,歼-10A于1998年首飞,2004年开始换装,“八一”飞行表演队换装时仍属于早期列装部队。从歼-10A开始中国才逐渐摆脱了早期苏式战机的技术路线,独立开发世界主流水平的四代战机,彼时还处于摸索阶段,换装速度自然会缓慢一些,直到2019年还不时会有媒体报道“八一”飞行表演队歼-10A战备值班的新闻。
 

SlothmanAllen

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Updated render for the M1E3. New unmanned turret design looks like the bastard child of a T-90M and a Merkava

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I am guessing it is going to get closer and closer to something like the AbramX.

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SlothmanAllen

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If some of the other older models floated around are related to this, seems it might actually end up looking closer to the T-90M



To go along with these pictures of the M1E3, here are renderings of the General Dynamics Wolf and American Rheinmetall Lynx IFVs that are competing for the XM30 Mechanized Infantry Combat Vehicle (MICV) program to replace the Bradley IFV.


Here is a much higher resolution image of the M1E3 posted above, along with a high resolution rendering of the AbramsX and then both overlayed against eachother.

 
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