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New details emerge in USS Fitzgerald collision investigation

Five of the seven Navy sailors who died aboard the guided-missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald when it
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off the east coast of Japan may have been almost instantly "incapacitated" and died quickly, according to a preliminary Navy analysis, a defense official told CNN.
That assessment is based on an examinationof the point of impact and the berths in which the sailors were likely sleeping.

The two ships collided on the Fitzgerald's starboard side directly next to the berthing area, where sailors sleep. The impact ripped the Fitzgerald open and caused water to pour in.
The official also noted the Navy is trying to corroborate accounts which suggest that the two sailors who weren't almost instantly "incapacitated" attempted to help the other five escape the incoming water.
"But at some point the ship somehow lost communication," with the two sailors and they also perished, according to the official. All seven were found dead in the flooded area.

It also appears that the collision caused part of the berthing compartment to collapse inward, making it difficult for survivors to get out.

The official said It may never be known if the order to close the watertight hatch to the berthing area came while the two men were still alive.

The formal investigation will determine who gave that order, but the initial sense is the decision was necessary because water had not only flooded the berthing area but was flowing into other locations including a deck below.

The official emphasized that the Navy will wait for all the investigations to be completed before coming to any conclusions about the actions of the crew and decisions over citations for heroism or potential disciplinary action.

The official also strongly emphasized that no judgments are being made about the timing of the decision to shut the watertight hatch. It is also not clear if those on the bridge called the commanding officer as the crisis unfolded.

The collision occurred very close to the cabin of Cmdr. Bryce Benson, and he was briefly unable to get out. The crew helped him to the bridge, but he was so badly injured that he had to be medevaced off the ship and the second in command took over.

The US Navy, the US Coast Guard, and Japanese naval and maritime authorities are all conducting investigations.

An early assessment suggests the container ship might have been on some type of autopilot system at the time of the collision, the official said.

However, that does not explain how and why the crew of the Fitzgerald did not see the other ship coming, or why they were unable to maneuver away from it, the official said.

Initial reports suggest that the collision occurred at 1:30 a.m., but the container ship crew did not automatically realize it had happened. The container ship turned back, and it appears the collision was then formally reported around 2:20 a.m.

To help determine what happened, investigators will download radar data from the ship's Aegis weapons system, which records routine details on position, course, speed and any nearby ships or aircraft. Navigation and radar data will also be gathered from the cargo ship.

Another factor being examined is the impact of the destruction of the Fitzgerald's communications gear on the ability of the crew to call back to shore to inform commanders they needed help.

Preliminary analysis indicates the collision occurred where the ship's communication nodes are housed and the official said the crew had to resort to using satellite based cell phones to communicate both on board and back to shore.

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HII Awarded Contract to Build First Flight III Burke-class Destroyer Jack H. Lucas DDG 125

Huntington Ingalls Industries’ (HII) Ingalls Shipbuilding division has received a contract modification to incorporate the
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Jack H. Lucas (DDG 125). The ship is the fifth of five destroyers the company was originally awarded in June 2013.

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2 new Burke in july ! :cool:

New AB Class

Udapte for the 3 Commissioned in 2017
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Flight IIA Restart
John Finn (DDG 113) (Ingalls Shipbuilding) commissioned 15 July 2017
Ralph Johnson (DDG 114), (Ingalls Shipbuilding) commissioned in 2017
Rafael Peralta (DDG 115), (Bath Iron Works) commissioned 29 July 2017


Flight IIA Technology Insertion
Thomas Hudner (DDG 116), Under construction (Bath Iron Works) commissioned in 2018
Paul Ignatius (DDG 117), Under construction (Ingalls Shipbuilding) commissioned in 2018
Daniel Inouye (DDG 118), Under construction (Bath Iron Works)
Delbert D. Black (DDG 119), Contract awarded (Ingalls Shipbuilding) commissioned in 2018
Carl M. Levin (DDG 120), Contract awarded (Bath Iron Works)
Frank E. Petersen Jr. (DDG 121) Contract awarded (Ingalls Shipbuilding) commissioned in 2020
John Basilone (DDG 122) Contract awarded (Bath Iron Works) commissioned in 2022
Lenah H. Sutcliffe Higbee (DDG 123) Contract awarded (Ingalls Shipbuilding)

Flight III
Harvey C. Barnum Jr. (DDG 124) Contract awarded (Bath Iron Works)
Jack H. Lucas (DDG 125) Contract awarded (Ingalls Shipbuilding)
Louis H. Wilson Jr (DDG 126) Contract awarded (Bath Iron Works)
 
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Davis-Monthan Air Force Base Aircraft Boneyard
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Enough aircraft there, and decent ones with very good capabilities despite their age...to outfit most Air Forces of the world. Outside of the US, China, Russia, the UK, France and a few others, almost any nation on earth would salivate at the prospect of having those aircraft to come to their shores and be cleaned up, refit, and put in operating order.
 
Tuesday at 6:01 AM
I now actually opened

H.R. 2810 — FY18 NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATON BILL
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and ... quickly closed it :)

"The HASC will mark up this bill on Wednesday in an open session that typically lasts well past midnight."
so let's wait and see:
HASC Would Add 5 Ships, $3 Billion in Aircraft Procurement to Navy’s 2018 Plans
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and HASC overwhelmingly passes 2018 defense policy bill
The House Armed Services Committee voted 60-1 to authorize $696.5 billion in defense spending for 2018, which adds $21 billion of $31 billion of DoD-requested weapons programs left unfunded by the Trump budget request.

Chairman Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, said the National Defense Authorization Act takes “significant steps toward rebuilding the military,” and a 355 ship Navy, with $6 billion added for shipbuilding.

“There are many moving pieces to the broader budget picture that will develop over this year, but for today and for our responsibilities as the Armed Services Committee, it is important for us to put down this marker for what we need for national defense,” he said.

But the committee’s top Democrat, Rep. Adam Smith, countered that Congress has “vastly over-promised” on what it can deliver on defense spending, given its dynamics. The bill’s base-budget exceeds the $549 billion statutory budget cap for defense, and easing the cap means navigating both deficit hawks in the House and Senate Democrats who will not lift caps without increased domestic spending.

“We have basically not been honest with the American people about the choices that we face, and Oct. 1” — the start of fiscal 2018 — “this all comes to a head, when all these promises that don’t add up leave us in a very bad place,” said Smith, D-Wash. “It is highly unlikely at the end of this process we will have $696 billion.”

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The HASC voted at 11:59 p.m. to send the bill to the House floor, making the nearly 14-hour mark up the fastest for the panel's NDAA in recent years. Thornberry estimated at the top of the markup that a new paperless amendment process would save the committee an hour and $10,000.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, was the lone "no" vote. An fierce skeptic of U.S. activity in Syria, she cited what she said were vetting issues with the American program to train and equip Syrian fighters.

House GOP leaders this week put off consideration of a resolution setting numbers for the federal budget as conservatives pressed for deeper cuts to mandatory spending. However, there appeared to be agreement on the defense topline, with $511 billion for non-defense in fiscal 2018.

The NDAA would authorize $621.5 billion in the base budget and $75 billion in the wartime overseas contingency operations account, which is exempt from budget caps. Ten billion dollars in base requirements would be funded through OCO.

Earlier in the day, Senate Armed Services Committee passed its draft of the annual authorization measure, with a different top line and different set of priorities that will have to be reconciled in coming months.

The NDAA covers the Defense Department and Department of Energy, so the HASC bill actually includes $592.8 billion in discretionary base dollars for the Pentagon and $20.8 billion for DoE.

Among several Trump-themed amendments offered by Democrats, the HASC included an amendment that bars the funds in the bill from going to a border wall. Rep. Beto O’Rourke, D-Texas, offered key language before Thornberry countered, “There is nothing in this bill that has anything to do with a wall on the border,” but Republicans were unable to bat it down.

Another Trump-themed amendment that failed 31-31 was aimed at ordering quarterly reports on how much DoD spends to support Trump and his family’s frequent travel. Democrats argued the travel is wasteful and violates the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution because Trump profits by staying at his own properties.

Rep. Tom O’Halleran, D-Ariz., who offered the amendment, said the Air Force reported to him that Trump's travel cost DoD more than $15 million through mid May. “This is unprecedented and goes way beyond any petty partisan concern,” Smith said in support.

Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Texas, accused Democrats of reaching outside the HASC’s scope to re-litigate the election. “You have a problem with this president, I get it. I had a problem with the last one,” he said. “This is not what we ought to be spending our time on.”

By and large, the HASC handed the Defense Department and industry a list of victories on weapon program funding and its blessing to buy more big-ticket items than the president’s budget request would have.

For Navy shipbuilding programs, the bill adds five more ships to the president’s request for eight. There’s one more DDG-51 for a total of three destroyers; it adds two littoral combat ships for a total of three, and it adds a Puller-class expeditionary sea base.

Seapower Chairman Rob Wittman fended off an amendment to cut the third LCS, with a 43-19 vote. The amendment from Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass, would have moved $556 million for the ship toward munitions Pacific Command requested but the White House left unfunded.

Moulton called the beleaguered LCS program a “congressional boondoggle,” while Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., pointed to one ship plagued by a hull cracks and corrosion and DoD’s conclusion in 2012 the ship was not survivable in combat.

But Republicans argued that adding a third vessel would cut costs overall at the Wisconsin and Alabama shipyards where the ships are built. Rep. Bradley Byrne, R-Ala., said that contrary to opponents’ claims, the Navy wants the third LCS and that cutting it would spark shipyard layoffs.

"The three ships not only maintains a healthy industrial base, because without three ships, the skilled workforce will suffer a 10-to 40-percent layoff resulting in an extended production timeline and unit cost increases of 10 to 15 percent," Byrne said. “The labor force is not a spigot. When you turn it off, you can’t just turn it on again.”

For aviation, the proposal adds 17 Lockheed Martin-made F-35 fighter jets above the Trump request for a total of 87. It adds eight Boeing-made Navy F/A-18 Super Hornets for a total of 22 and adds six P-8A Poseidon aircraft for a total of 13.

It also adds funds for two more 2KC-46A air refueling aircraft, six more MC-130J and one HC-130J special mission aircraft.

The bill authorized an additional $103 million to preserve three A-10 Warthog squadrons that, without funding for new wings, could begin retiring as early as the mid-2020s.

Strategic Forces Subcommittee Chair Mike Rogers, R-Ala., fended off an amendment that would have delayed his plans to carve a new Space Corps out of the Air Force. Tactical AirLand Subcommittee Chair Mike Turner, R-Ohio, offered it, arguing the corps would be a major shift without an appropriate level of study.

“With the work we’ve done, you wouldn’t be able to write a thesis, you would be able to write a memo, and the memo would say we’ve had several discussions,” Turner said before the amendment was defeated by a voice vote. “A meeting is not enough.”

Air Force officials have balked at the move, which would create a new military service responsible for national security in space, subordinate to the Air Force and U.S. Strategic Command, with a four-star leader in the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Rogers said there had been an extraordinary amount of deliberation in his subcommittee, and that the Air Force would only be required design the new force next year. He and Strategic Forces ranking member Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Tenn., said the force is needed for America to stay competitive against Russia and China.

For the Army, the bill adds 17,000 Army troops, and upgrades 29 more Abrams tanks and 33 more Bradley fighting vehicles, among other hardware.

The bill adds $300 million for 15 UH-60Ms for the Army National Guard, $308.7 million for nine AH-64Es, $243 million for nine CH-47F Block Is, $246.5 million for four MH-47G Chinooks, and $16.7 million for 3 UH-60Vs.
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