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I think that was a real wartime situation, or even worse for the crew. It happened in the middle of the night, when the entire crew was relaxed during a slow, routine patrol mission. Then bang! There was no time to 'contain flooding' - all the could do was closing all of the watertight doors they could and later assessed the situation of what's going on with CO being put out of action due to injuries I suppose. Knowing that few of their fellow crewmates are probably gone I can only wonder what was happening in the heads of those who rushed there first. They did a lot of superb work that night.
I think that the crew did great in those 'extraordinary' situation that was as close to the real combat as possible. Watching Fitzgerald entering Yokosuka Naval Base sitting so deep into the water it looked like the old photos from WWII times.
It depends on the measure to which the crew is trained. If the Admiral is right and extraordinary courage was required perhaps USN should look at the quality of crew training.
BTW my house doesn't have a couch and it must be twenty or more years ago that I last drank Grolsch.
Jura The idiot
General
common you know what I mean, questioning anybody's courage without knowing the details it's too frigging much
Perhaps the crew was too relaxed. That is a matter for the court marshal. But even in war a ship might be surprised by a sudden torpedo hit. Also 'contain flooding' begins by closing the watertight doors.
The fact that the CO was not available, in this case because he was injured, should not delay the action of the ship. On a ship it must always be clear who is in command.
Equation
Lieutenant General
What I want to know where were the navigation officers and communication from BOTH ships at the time?
Ok you non-USN types stand aside.. let a sailor make an observation.
Equation the NAV officer aboard a USN ship is not required to be on the Navigational bridge at all times. He has qualified watch standers to serve that duty.
In reading different queries on different boards the main question is..how did this happen?
The same way auto accidents happen.
Ahhh.. I think the Civilian vessel was on auto pilot as they sometimes are. The USN ship always has watchstanders on the bridge and lookouts. Someone aboard one of those ships goofed. I think we will discover that warning signals were sounded and perhaps messages sent...One thing all must understand. You just can't turn a ship like and automobile. It takes a lot of space. Tons..even for an Arliegh Burke DDG.
I'm guessing Fitzgerald saw the merchant vessel. Warned them while turning away. But the merchant perhaps was on auto-pilot and smashed into Fitzgerald. I say that because the damage is on the port bow of MV ACX Crystal. I'm pretty sure MV ACX Crystal ran into Fitzgerald.
Remember...I'm guessing. and I did intend to keep this to myself.
Equation the NAV officer aboard a USN ship is not required to be on the Navigational bridge at all times. He has qualified watch standers to serve that duty.
In reading different queries on different boards the main question is..how did this happen?
The same way auto accidents happen.
Ahhh.. I think the Civilian vessel was on auto pilot as they sometimes are. The USN ship always has watchstanders on the bridge and lookouts. Someone aboard one of those ships goofed. I think we will discover that warning signals were sounded and perhaps messages sent...One thing all must understand. You just can't turn a ship like and automobile. It takes a lot of space. Tons..even for an Arliegh Burke DDG.
I'm guessing Fitzgerald saw the merchant vessel. Warned them while turning away. But the merchant perhaps was on auto-pilot and smashed into Fitzgerald. I say that because the damage is on the port bow of MV ACX Crystal. I'm pretty sure MV ACX Crystal ran into Fitzgerald.
Remember...I'm guessing. and I did intend to keep this to myself.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Yes, but in the end it's the US tax payers (like us) has to pay to repair for this damage. Now the question is how much the Philippine Merchant is at fault and how much damage they must pay as well is the question.
