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Jeff Head said:
Yes they are.


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At Charleston AFB
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Is that a real picture? The planes seems to fly pretty close to each other.
 
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no_name said:
Is that a real picture? The planes seems to fly pretty close to each other.
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Yes, that is a real picture, taken of the US Air Force picture site.

There are 16 aircraft there, a part of a 20 aircraft formation flown on December 22, 2006. They are separated significantly both front to back, and side to side. Those aircraft in the far distant are actually several miles back. The picture is taken with a high res, zoom lens.

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Seventh San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock ship, has completed final contract trials

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Bad news for the US Navy.. budget cuts rears it's ugly head. The full article is in the link provided.

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WASHINGTON — In a move that will sadden and anger many submariners, the US Navy has concluded the cost to repair the nuclear attack submarine Miami, severely damaged last year by an arsonist, is more than it can afford in an era where repair and maintenance funds are being slashed by mandated budget cuts.

“The decision to inactivate Miami is a difficult one, taken after hard analysis and not made lightly,” Rear Adm. Rick Breckenridge, the Navy’s director of undersea warfare at the Pentagon, said in a statement released Tuesday evening.

“We will lose the five deployments that Miami would have provided over the remaining ten years of her planned service life, but in exchange for avoiding the cost of repairs, we will open up funds to support other vital maintenance efforts, improving the wholeness and readiness of the fleet.”

The Navy last year estimated that repairs to the Los Angeles-class submarine would cost at least $450 million, and at least $94 million has been spent to plan the repair work.

But after what a Navy official termed a “comprehensive damage assessment” conducted over the past year, the estimated repair costs have risen dramatically.

“The increased cost estimate and scope means that without $390 million in additional funding in fiscal 2014, funding the repairs would require cancellation of dozens of remaining availabilities on surface ships and submarines,” Breckenridge said in the statement.

He noted that the cost would compound pressures from sequestration in 2014. “The Navy and the nation simply cannot afford to weaken other fleet readiness in the way that would be required to afford repairs to Miami,” Breckenridge said.

A key factor in the heightened cost estimate, the Navy official said, was the effect of “environmentally-assisted cracking” in the steel piping and fasteners used in the air, hydraulic and cooling water systems aboard the submarine, meaning much more equipment would have to be replaced than previously thought.

The official added that a review of other recent repair efforts on submarines suffering from major damage “revealed that planned contingency funds were insufficient.”
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bd popeye said:
Bad news for the US Navy.. budget cuts rears it's ugly head. The full article is in the link provided.

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You gotta be kidding me, all because of that one arsonist that want's to have an off day from work? I hope all his future jobs will be nothing more than minimum wages once he pays his due in jail.
 
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bd popeye said:
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I would like to put all the blame on this arsonist, stop there and be blissfully ignorant but I get the sense that he is just one domino to fall in a chain reaction of how mental health is handled, how workers are compensated, how contracting is done with public money on public works, etc.
 
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I really doubted that they would fix USS Miami... a fire that substantial would require significant repairs, and there would be major concerns about the seaworthiness of the boat as the pressure hull could have been significantly compromised by the fire.
 
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I really doubted that they would fix USS Miami... a fire that substantial would require significant repairs, and there would be major concerns about the seaworthiness of the boat as the pressure hull could have been significantly compromised by the fire.
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Well the thing that surprised is that $94 million has already been spent on the re-fit.
 
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bd popeye said:
Well the thing that surprised is that $94 million has already been spent on the re-fit.
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Yeah, sometimes you uncover and open a can of worms anytime a ship is badly damaged and you do major repairs or refits. I remember hearing that when HMCS Preserver went into refit a few years back, the shipyard workers uncovered a number of fittings covered in asbestos, and that alone caused the refit to go significantly over budget and late. At that point, a decision has to be made if it is worth continuing the work, or stopping and scrapping the ship.
 
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