Nice jobs for Korean shipbuilding company, with the state if US fleet and shipyard, they will have more coming for years.
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Anybody posted this already? Apparently the constellation class has been pushed back to first hull by 2029
World's greatest superpower, somehow can't properly produce a frigate despite using a tested foreign design
America is a de-industrialised paper tiger.
World's greatest superpower, somehow can't properly produce a frigate despite using a tested foreign design
America is a de-industrialised paper tiger.
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TerraN_EmpirE
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Because it’s not.
The USN wanted a mini Burke frigate they weren’t looking for a duel role frigate like the FREMM but they basically had the FREMM rammed down their throats.
So like trying to make a pizza from the Ingredients for a soup they have to redesign. The hull form is the same but all the equipment has to meet USN needs including a completely different weapons, radar and mission control system than has been used on previous designs. So Constellation class is a completely new frigate.
They lengthened the hull and modified the bow too.
Related, this is an interest write up from Brian Potter, who suggests that the US never had a competitive commercial shipbuilding industry during the entire cold war. The standard narrative is that Chinese, Korean and Japanese shipbuilders are so effective because they can pivot between a huge commercial industry and military clients yet this was never the case in the US. What's not clear to me is why shipbuilding has atrophied so hard since the end of the cold war if Americans were never particularly skilled (or how they produced such a huge fleet in the first place). Simply less money now?
So that frigate will become bigger than the Burke if we let these out of a leash... The use of the FREMM hull was probably to not have that problem. I see bigger naval disaster at the horizon.
I read this a while back and found it really interesting. I think they were able to build such a large fleet because they had a huge industrial base which offset their relatively inefficient shipbuilding industry.
I think it’s important to realize that while they likely weren’t the most efficient shipbuilder, they likely were far more efficient then they are today. Oh top of that, the Second World War allowed them to develop excellent naval design talent. This was further aided by the Cold War which kept the money flowing.
I am guessing that changes in transport (highways and airplanes) and government policy (subsidies and laws) when combined with other manufacturing contractions eventually led to the situation the US faces today.
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A big part of this is the decline of the steel industry. I wouldn't be surprised if steel plates for naval vessels are regularly arriving late, and over-cost at US yards. Because I very much doubt the 'muh national security' crowd is willing to use a reliable source of steel (China) for their ships.