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SlothmanAllen

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Not necessarily.

Lockheed Martin has been involved in a number of VLO reconnaissance/surveillance UAV projects in the past, i.e. RQ-3, X-44A, P-175 and the famous RQ-170.

Hence, if the information from that guy is true, I do believe that said RQ-180-successor is highly likely to have further upgrades and enhancements on various capabilities and performances compared to its predecessors, while still following the "VLO, flying wing, high-altitude RQ-UAV" family lineage.

Wanna bet a (V)VLO flying wing that flies somewhere around 70, 80 or even 100 thousand feet, while maintaining intercontinental range capabilities?

That is a good point. Though you think they would just stick with Northrop in that case no? They already have the RQ-180, so why go with a totally different vendor?
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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That is a good point. Though you think they would just stick with Northrop in that case no?
The RQ-180 development contract was awarded to Northrop Grumman by the USAF after beating Boeing and Lockheed Martin in a competition for a RQ-170-successor - The usual, I suppose.

Hence, it's not really surprising if Lockheed Martin was awarded the contract for the RQ-180-successor (let's just give it the notional designation RQ-190 for the sake of ease of typing) through largely similar methods of competition between the 3 US defense aerospace corporations.

They already have the RQ-180, so why go with a totally different vendor?
The RQ-180 development contract was awarded all the way back in 2008, with deliveries of low-rate initial production units started in 2013. That's around a decade ago. Capabilities and objectives can change a lot since then.

IMHO, other than LockMart's proposal being able to met all of the new requirements set out by the USAF (again, the usual) - Recall one of the RQ-170s which was lost to Iran (Iran brought it down through cyberwarfare), which occurred during RQ-180's development period. Adding on, the US is also facing mounting pressure (and thus, need) with the recent rise of China's military prowess.

Hence, it isn't really surprising for the USAF to demand a much, much better upgrade with the RQ-190 when compared to its predecessor.
 

SlothmanAllen

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The RQ-180 development contract was awarded to Northrop Grumman by the USAF after beating Boeing and Lockheed Martin in a competition for a RQ-170-successor - The usual, I suppose.

Hence, it's not really surprising if Lockheed Martin was awarded the contract for the RQ-180-successor (let's just give it the notional designation RQ-190 for the sake of ease of typing) through largely similar methods of competition between the 3 US defense aerospace corporations.


The RQ-180 development contract was awarded all the way back in 2008, with deliveries of low-rate initial production units started in 2013. That's around a decade ago. Capabilities and objectives can change a lot since then.

IMHO, other than LockMart's proposal being able to met all of the new requirements set out by the USAF (again, the usual) - Recall one of the RQ-170s which was lost to Iran (Iran brought it down through cyberwarfare), which occurred during RQ-180's development period. Adding on, the US is also facing mounting pressure (and thus, need) with the recent rise of China's military prowess.

Hence, it isn't really surprising for the USAF to demand a much, much better upgrade with the RQ-190 when compared to its predecessor.

I would be really interested to see a flying wing design from Lockheed. Given what little we know about the RQ-180, it was already likely the most complex unmanned UAV built to this point. If Lockheed has a flying wing the greatly surpasses it, that would be very impressive!
 

SlothmanAllen

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Seems hiring is improving for US submarine industrial base, though it sounds like they have a long way to go:

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Huntington Ingalls:
“…turning to labor, we have hired nearly 5,400 craft personnel year-to-date through the third quarter, which puts us 8% ahead of our full-year plan of approximately 5,000. We have work to do to improve our retention rate and the shipbuilding teams are laser focused on addressing this challenge. Retention and attendance and the acceleration of workforce development will remain consistent focus areas for us going forward,”

In recent years, both shipbuilders have been working around the clock to get back the construction cadence they had before COVID-19. The deadly pandemic was one of many compounding factors that affected the industrial base. Attendance at Newport News Shipbuilding dropped to about 50 percent during the second quarter of 2020.

This is due to one of the key proposals under the 1st pillar of the agreement calling for Australia to potentially buy three to five Virginia-class submarines from the United States. As such, many commentators have started calling for the US Navy to readjust its construction goals from 2+1 (two Virginias and one Columbia) to 3+1 to account for the potential sales, while others have called for the US Navy not to sell any submarines until more and yet-to-be-defined investments have been made in the industrial base.
 

Janiz

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Interesting image of the USS Pickney after the EW upgrades. Kind of highlights how the base design is starting to show its age
lol, "show it's age"
You probably haven't noticed but it's usual place for SEWIP sponsons on this class. One can say that the design "is showing its age" when they won't be able to install enough power generators inside in the future. For now it only shows that the SEWIP suite is now enclosed and that's more or less it looked like from the projects. If it shows anything then it would the fact that those destroyers are still marvelous platforms after almost 40 years.
 
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