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TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Seriously I don’t know why I stick around anymore. This thread isn’t about news anymore it’s nation bashing, trolling, tweet posting and the level of narrative national defense analysis you could find blasted across the trash of RT, Sputnik and the National enquirer… sometimes the Weekly World news... It’s a lampoon of it’s former self.

It’s about the supply chain.
The magnets in the F135 was a violation of the contract with the DOD and security of the supply chain. It established an opening that could be exploited to create disruption in the delivery of the product in a major way. Just look at the car industry for the last couple of years where in major manufacturing has been stunted by lack of critical low end chips.

3D printer what is it capable of making that is absolutely critical to National defense? Not a lot. Anything it could Make could easily be sourced elsewhere or by other means and though the printer may be of Chinese origin the products it makes won’t be. Assuming it’s used beyond just additive manufacturing of caps for Fire extinguishers, bits of plastic that could be used to stow glow sticks. Maybe a coffee mug holder.
 
broadsword

broadsword

Brigadier
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Seriously I don’t know why I stick around anymore. This thread isn’t about news anymore it’s nation bashing, trolling, tweet posting and the level of narrative national defense analysis you could find blasted across the trash of RT, Sputnik and the National enquirer… sometimes the Weekly World news... It’s a lampoon of it’s former self.

It’s about the supply chain.
The magnets in the F135 was a violation of the contract with the DOD and security of the supply chain. It established an opening that could be exploited to create disruption in the delivery of the product in a major way. Just look at the car industry for the last couple of years where in major manufacturing has been stunted by lack of critical low end chips.

3D printer what is it capable of making that is absolutely critical to National defense? Not a lot. Anything it could Make could easily be sourced elsewhere or by other means and though the printer may be of Chinese origin the products it makes won’t be. Assuming it’s used beyond just additive manufacturing of caps for Fire extinguishers, bits of plastic that could be used to stow glow sticks. Maybe a coffee mug holder.
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Stick around as you are unofficially given the role of the explainer.
 
Dragon of War

Dragon of War

Junior Member
Registered Member
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Seriously I don’t know why I stick around anymore. This thread isn’t about news anymore it’s nation bashing, trolling, tweet posting and the level of narrative national defense analysis you could find blasted across the trash of RT, Sputnik and the National enquirer… sometimes the Weekly World news... It’s a lampoon of it’s former self.

It’s about the supply chain.
The magnets in the F135 was a violation of the contract with the DOD and security of the supply chain. It established an opening that could be exploited to create disruption in the delivery of the product in a major way. Just look at the car industry for the last couple of years where in major manufacturing has been stunted by lack of critical low end chips.

3D printer what is it capable of making that is absolutely critical to National defense? Not a lot. Anything it could Make could easily be sourced elsewhere or by other means and though the printer may be of Chinese origin the products it makes won’t be. Assuming it’s used beyond just additive manufacturing of caps for Fire extinguishers, bits of plastic that could be used to stow glow sticks. Maybe a coffee mug holder.
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People who lack the deeper understanding of the technical working of things tend to default to this type of argumentative nature. If you want to discuss purely facts and points then stick to that and don't feed into the trend of mindless gossip it more often than not is not worth pursuing conversation about if it's not to your satisfaction. I find it a bit refreshing given the amount of Western narrative and media I'm exposed to due to my geolocation in the world.

3D printer what is it capable of making that is absolutely critical to National defense? Not a lot. Anything it could Make could easily be sourced elsewhere or by other means and though the printer may be of Chinese origin the products it makes won’t be. Assuming it’s used beyond just additive manufacturing of caps for Fire extinguishers, bits of plastic that could be used to stow glow sticks. Maybe a coffee mug holder.
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I think we're only at the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what we can do with "3D printing", I believe we've we'll be printing more than just 'plastic' objects in the future and have warehouse sized "3D printing" in the future. It's just the next evolutionary step in mass production, like when the American's decided to start making whole cast pieces rather than technical complex welds of early model Sherman tanks during World War 2. Or better when they started to make ships this way, instead of lots of individual part they make whole pre-made parts like they did with houses or cars, it rampt up production significantly.
 
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tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Seriously I don’t know why I stick around anymore. This thread isn’t about news anymore it’s nation bashing, trolling, tweet posting and the level of narrative national defense analysis you could find blasted across the trash of RT, Sputnik and the National enquirer… sometimes the Weekly World news... It’s a lampoon of it’s former self.

It’s about the supply chain.
The magnets in the F135 was a violation of the contract with the DOD and security of the supply chain. It established an opening that could be exploited to create disruption in the delivery of the product in a major way. Just look at the car industry for the last couple of years where in major manufacturing has been stunted by lack of critical low end chips.

3D printer what is it capable of making that is absolutely critical to National defense? Not a lot. Anything it could Make could easily be sourced elsewhere or by other means and though the printer may be of Chinese origin the products it makes won’t be. Assuming it’s used beyond just additive manufacturing of caps for Fire extinguishers, bits of plastic that could be used to stow glow sticks. Maybe a coffee mug holder.
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I mean, the US does this to themselves with their paranoia, and by the look of things, its only going to get worse
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Dragon of War said:
People who lack the deeper understanding of the technical working of things tend to default to this type of argumentative nature. If you want to discuss purely facts and points then stick to that and don't feed into the trend of mindless gossip it more often than not is not worth pursuing conversation about if it's not to your satisfaction. I find it a bit refreshing given the amount of Western narrative and media I'm exposed to due to my geolocation in the world.



I think we're only at the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what we can do with "3D printing", I believe we've we'll be printing more than just 'plastic' objects in the future and have warehouse sized "3D printing" in the future. It's just the next evolutionary step in mass production, like when the American's decided to start making whole cast pieces rather than technical complex welds of early model Sherman tanks during World War 2. Or better when they started to make ships this way, instead of lots of individual part they make whole pre-made parts like they did with houses or cars, it rampt up production significantly.
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TK3600 said:
Isnt there technology to 3d print metal parts too delicate for machining?
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I agree on the assessment of the potential we already see metal and carbon fiber additive manufacturing however the unit in question is not that type. The unit in question prints acrylic based. Not metal, not carbon fiber. As such it’s basically a model maker.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
tygyg1111 said:
I mean, the US does this to themselves with their paranoia, and by the look of things, its only going to get worse
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Ask our Russian poster’s about Supply chains to military production.
The short version 2013 Russian modernization of equipment was centered around western imports and working well for Russia. 2014 Ukraine invasion part 1. 2015 Russian Modernization stagnation. Everything falls apart western sanctions.

Secondary Chinese officials openly have vocalized the angst. Recent Chinese government statements in regards to Ukraine and NATO show that a conflict between the two is more that paranoia. If the head of a state that has portions of you MIC supply chain running though it calls you a nation security threat. That’s a sign you shouldn’t be relying on them.
 
sheogorath

sheogorath

Major
Registered Member
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Recent Chinese government statements in regards to Ukraine and NATO show that a conflict between the two is more that paranoia.
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Mostly of the US own doings as they have increasingly antagonized China after Obama "Asia pivot".

TerraN_EmpirE said:
If the head of a state that has portions of you MIC supply chain running though it calls you a nation security threat.
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The US is a security threat to everybody, though.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
sheogorath said:
Mostly of the US own doings as they have increasingly antagonized China after Obama "Asia pivot".
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“retired” Chinese leaders have been pushing similar rhetoric for years even before Obama. As far back as the Clinton administration signs of pacific security issues were brewing. The pivot to Asia would have happened in the early Bush administration if not for 9/11. jingoism is a two way street. China has Antagonized just as much and the two create a feed back loop. Especially when you start Saber rattling.
sheogorath said:
The US is a security threat to everybody, though.
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This statement makes no sense.
It’s a zero sum argument with no room to except that even China has taken advantage of the US position at global leader to grow. It fails at every level to accept that the US security is why nations like South Korea haven’t had an active war, that the main reason why conventional conflicts are a rarity is application of the international rules based order centered around the US and it’s alliance.
Stating this as is you believe it to be matter of fact is basically a statement of war. Fortunately no one here have the power to start one, my point is when you make such a statement you have closed your mind to any compromise.
 
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