Jura The idiot
General
please do something about your spell checker, it's "bolster" not "bluster", and it's "their" not "there" gee
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There was a patriot battery five km away from the place of attack, occupied since 2017
coordinates :
25°56'27.47" 49°43'57.03"
Check it on google earth.
You can see on ALL google earth pro hysterical imagery since 28/07/2017 the TELs and radar.
If you wish I can copy here the screenshot from google earth, showing it occupied on 7 sat image in 2018, and on seven another in 2019 .
Prior of that the site has been unoccupied .
And considering that the patriot has 150 km range, at least another Patriot was in range, and few hawk as well.
The area in question is quite important, in a 200 km area there are multiple oil facility, port and so on.
source :
google earth .
So, there is a proof when the Patriot failed to protect , or even detect missiles attacking the object it designated to.
Now, can you show similar event about S-300 ?
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I have to make a retraction two in fact. I am wrong congratulations.
But then so are you.
The PAC system is a anti Ballistic missile system. As are S300 and S400 the weapons used in the Saudi Attack were cruse missiles and drones low level flight profiles below the envelopes of those systems. The Pantsir is a low end defense system however it’s been blown up by the very system it is meant to counter. A PAC system was in place but the attack took advantage of the capacity gap.
The Hawk system might have worked but it’s an antique.
The US has been looking to gap fill this capacity by either Iron Dome, or NASAMS/SLAMRAAMS however neither is in Saudi Arabian service.
As to your question on S300. To date despite integration into Syrian air defense to date the Syrians have been routinely struck by missiles and fighters with only one loss. The same for S400 although those are housed only on Russian bases. In other words no history of success. The S200 did nail a Russian aircraft and an Israeli F16I yet those systems have also taken losses in Operation House of Cards.
But then so are you.
The PAC system is a anti Ballistic missile system. As are S300 and S400 the weapons used in the Saudi Attack were cruse missiles and drones low level flight profiles below the envelopes of those systems. The Pantsir is a low end defense system however it’s been blown up by the very system it is meant to counter. A PAC system was in place but the attack took advantage of the capacity gap.
The Hawk system might have worked but it’s an antique.
The US has been looking to gap fill this capacity by either Iron Dome, or NASAMS/SLAMRAAMS however neither is in Saudi Arabian service.
As to your question on S300. To date despite integration into Syrian air defense to date the Syrians have been routinely struck by missiles and fighters with only one loss. The same for S400 although those are housed only on Russian bases. In other words no history of success. The S200 did nail a Russian aircraft and an Israeli F16I yet those systems have also taken losses in Operation House of Cards.
Jura The idiot
General
the Patriot? Raytheon, so eager to sell its last century perfo product, even claimed downing more targets than it'd been available, LOL!
Raytheon: Saudi-based Patriots intercepted over 100 tactical ballistic missiles since 2015
note the article is from November 14, 2017
the leaflet by marketing geniuses still available:
Pew! Pew! Billions Coming! Billions Coming!
Raytheon: Saudi-based Patriots intercepted over 100 tactical ballistic missiles since 2015
note the article is from November 14, 2017
the leaflet by marketing geniuses still available:
Pew! Pew! Billions Coming! Billions Coming!
Interesting, it works like a faith .
so, let start again :
Apart from duck and cover ,how the USA military personnel will protect themselves in the middle east from the IRanian rockets / cruise missiles?
Iron Dome against home made short range rockets , PAC is against B-52 bombers.
And the examples that you bought up are pointless , no video on the internet showing an operational pantsir in flames.
And S300 vs PAC:
You say that the S300 is worthless ,because failed to protect all possible target in a 185000 sqkm country, but at the same time the PAC failed to protect an 1 sqkm are .
See the differences?
I don't want to go deeper into your fallacies / religious level belief in the worthless of Russian and god like characteristic of USA assets - you can generate quicker and with way less effort groundless claims than my capability (and time ) to disprove them.
Jura The idiot
General
Jura The idiot
General
Oct 9, 2019
US Agrees to Reduce Forces in Afghanistan ‘If Taliban Live up To Their Commitments’
the expression is 'bogged down', it's b-o-g-g-e-d d-o-w-n
while now
US Agrees to Reduce Forces in Afghanistan ‘If Taliban Live up To Their Commitments’
the expression is 'bogged down', it's b-o-g-g-e-d d-o-w-n
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
That’s not even the start of understanding the situation. Bogged down would
Mean there is no endgame insight. In this case everyone has a endgame except the US who is trying to get out with a fantasy.
US Forces are more or less in the training mode for the Afghan forces with only SF operating out of the wire.
Afghan forces as a whole are infiltrated with pro-Taliban and corruption is as rampant as the Chicago PD during prohibition.
Afghan leaders are siphoning every dollar they can into their own purses. National needs be damned. The Afghans haven’t had the idea of a unified nation since the Russians invaded. It’s all tribes and clans.
The Taliban has been getting arms, funding, vehicles, training camps, and protection from Pakistani ISI letting them do everything from take pot shots at Afghan and US forces from behind the Pakistani lines to giving them uniforms and equipment. all those brand new Toyota pickup trucks.
Because they operate on the premises that their are the so called “Good Taliban” who only side with Pakistan in destabilizing Pakistan’s neighbors and the “Bad Taliban” who side against Pakistan.
Well the difference between them is only a matter of whom is willing to take their money for the moment.
Pakistan is backed in this by Iran and China who in turn are backed by Russia as they don’t want US forces in the region.
Finally you have the US State department who keeps insisting that they can negotiate a coalition government between the Taliban and Kabul. A self delusion feed by the claim that the Taliban won’t return allow AQ to reestablish training camps in Afghanistan.
When they have been remarkably open about their objectives. Not to join Kabul but to seize it and rewind the clock back to August 2001. When With open arms bazaars and summer camps for all your favorite international terror groups. With stoning, beheading for all.