Somebody ain’t been followin’ the thread. I first posted about these fighters several hours ago and it’s been reposted twice already!
Ukrainian War Developments
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Are the Ukrainians making an effort to withdraw? Is it the 20th CAA closing from the north and northwest?
There are no Sukhois in NATO. Only MiG-29s and MiG-21s. 
Poland supposedly sent their MiG-29s to Israel for some upgrades. Supposedly these have NATO standard communications packages, NATO databus, and GPS.
Their talk that these will use Ukrainian pilots is fishy like hell.
Poland supposedly sent their MiG-29s to Israel for some upgrades. Supposedly these have NATO standard communications packages, NATO databus, and GPS.
Their talk that these will use Ukrainian pilots is fishy like hell.
I think Bulgaria has Su25. Who still operates Mig21?
Is that what happened to Trump, Bush Jr.
He could take Ukraine within one day with no casualties and it would still be a fiasco. The only strategic objective he could achieve is a disarmed, neutral Ukraine, and even that looks doubtful now.
All they do is run their mouths. I had to backhand bitch slap one of these supremacists last Friday when he decided that I was his Nyghur.
Y’all should’ve seen his face!
OK let's entertain this idea.
SSNs are used to bust the Chinese navy's defenses. Cool. Let's say that works. Then air power taking off from nowhere (because Guam is destroyed by DF-26s) finishes off ALL of the remaining Chinese navy. Let's just say that works completely fine.
Then you send transport ships towards Taiwan. However, Chinese shore based missiles (both ASBMs and conventional SSMs) destroys your transports. Chinese air force and naval aviation is also very active.
Then you start a war of attrition with China to destroy the Chinese air power. Even if you can win, it will take months to years. During which every convoy you send is in danger. They are detected when they enter the Taiwanese waters, when they dock/stop to drop supplies, they are instantly targeted by missiles. They may also hit mines, get ambushed by submarines and missile boats or their supplies maybe destroyed before it can be distributed. Sure, you fight off every engagement and ambush, but the number of cargo ships is dropping.
You try to get more. However, you realize that China is the biggest producer of ships. Japanese and South Korean shipyards are destroyed (because it is a WW3 scenario by that point) and American shipyards are busy building combat ships.
Then you discover that the 230 million Taiwanese actually need lots of food. And trucks to deliver said food from the ports to their home. And fuel to run those trucks. In fact, you need thousands of cargo ships.
Slowly, it becomes a desperate war of attrition. You lose more and more ships and cannot replenish your losses quick enough. China is taking heavy casualties as well. But they do not care as Taiwan is their core interests. Chinese decision makers are willing to sacrifice everything for it.
Now you are stuck. Watch Taiwan slowly but surely starve to death? Or give up and let China win?
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