Ukrainian War Developments

Abominable said:

Based Xi

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This China blaming is just so f*cking petty. the west have months to sort this out and they did nothing. NATO purpose is to protect member countries from Russian invasion and that's why Ukraine wants to join. But if the expansion is clearly leading to in invasion, any sensible solution would be to pause it. So the reality is that NATO rather let Ukraine invaded than to say it will stop expansion (to protect Ukraine). That's the kind of logic from these people we are dealing with here!!!

sndef888 said:

Yeah especially the one about the ghost pilot that downed 7 russian fighters. Its hilarious how westerners always think they're the smartest when they believe the most propaganda

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It is scary. Even on serious aviation forums they are buying this drivel. Some people are more honest and came out as saying “yeah this is probably propaganda but I want to believe it since it will boost morale”.

There are many things China can learn being a bystander (kind of):

1. what countries are hardcore US allies even this war is nothing to do with them
2. what sanctions are from US and its allies
3. military operations on both sides
4. worldwide reactions

I think China should give Putin a big medal and well prepared. Let's wait for the inevitable and compare notes.

GodRektsNoobs said:

Lenovo being US pupet company as usual.

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What about Huawei? They still sell to Russia?

I see many members here are very disappointed with Russian performance, such as lack of visually shocking bombardment, massive destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure, massive killing of Ukrainian soldiers etc.

This is the reason of why:

Zelensky appeals for direct talks with Putin​

and

Russia ready to start talks on Ukraine​

Imagine, if there are thousands or tenth of thousands dead, people will want blood for blood, eye for eye. It will get more Ukrainian to fight regardless what they think about NATO, it is personal. No Ukrainian leader would negotiate, Zelensky or not.

War is not a computer game, it is about lives both Russian and Ukrainian. It is not for the entertainment of internet chatters, take it seriously and wishing it get over quickly without much bloodshed and destruction is what we should all do.

Lastly, remember what Clausewitz said "war is simple a continuation of politics". War itself and its "spectacles" are not the purpose nor desirable.

sndef888 said:

Yeah especially the one about the ghost pilot that downed 7 russian fighters. Its hilarious how westerners always think they're the smartest when they believe the most propaganda

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Ukrainian propaganda is not world class. They should have asked India for extra lessons.

They have supermen killing 1000s of PLA soldiers with just looking at them.

A Tejas can easily destroy a whole J-10C squadron. J-20s can be detected from a 1000 miles away.

They destroyed the Pak Airfoce some years ago and they are also a supapow 2020 2030

Temstar said:

Meanwhile VDV at the airport continued to battle the National Guard throughout with the airfield exchanging hands multiple times

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That doesn't make any sense. This isn't a FPS videogame.

An airfield is a large complex series of structures. It can't be "exchanged multiple times" in a few hours.

More likely, Ukrainian claims of re-capturing the airfield were overblown.