Ukrainian War Developments

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noone536

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Russia is like Saint compare with ww2 Japan
lol the verdict is still out their as the war is still ongoing. but just for reference Russia does not have a good track record in Ukraine. Stalin literally move their whole tartar population to the border of Siberia, furthermore, not the mention the faming that they had to endure due to bad policy. also many people sent to camp for political reasons. this happened not that long ago some of those old lady and men still remember, to say what u say is basically saying japan invade china in modern time but they are treating the Chinese well. like no atking civilian etc,
 

bustead

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How much you wanna bet that independent Donetsk/Luhansk will be annexed into the Russian federation with a referendum vote like Crimea?

Let's bet $50.
I suspect that Russia may want to take Eastern Ukraine and hold the Dnieper river as well
 

sndef888

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I suspect that Russia may want to take Eastern Ukraine and hold the Dnieper river as well
Honestly they should just annex east of the dnieper and create a western ukraine rump state. The dnieper is an incredible natural border that will secure southern russia for centuries
 

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Sardaukar20

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There are graphic videos being shared on Telegram showing Ukrainian troops shooting at 'Russian saboteurs' disguised as Ukrainian soldiers. Now its occurring more and more often. Some people called it 'saboteur mania'.

Don't know how true is it. Whether it's really them going after actual Russian saboteurs. Or whether they are actually descending into paranoia.
 

manqiangrexue

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Nobody says China should openly criticize Russia on the world stage. I'm saying China should be publicly be politically neutral at UNSC while covertly economically supporting Russia, while privately acknowledging that it's actions are imperialistic. Problem?
Not a problem, as long as we understand that Russia's imperialistic actions are not bad, good for China, and pushed for by the West. I have no problem with saying that Russia's actions are imperialistic but recognize that sometimes, it takes good imperialism to fight the West's bad imperialism. To me, that is not a criticism of Russia.
What I am saying is, some hardcore Russian apologists on this forum consider merely privately 'acknowledging' Russian actions as imperialism as 'criticism of Russia' and 'pro-US shill', whereas that is more reflections of their insecurities and oversensitive to reality of Russia' brazen actions. Their insecurities lead them to call others "pro-US shills" for merely privately acknowledging reality, which is dangerous.

I'm more fighting against the hardcore Russian apologists who say Russia can do no evil, it's purely 100% defensive, and any private acknowledge of Russian actions as imperialism is "pro-US narrative". If you can't privately acknowledge reality, you have no basis of forming good decision-making.
What I'm saying is, that when you say something, it should have a point. When you say something you don't mean, it is for keeping up public image. When you say something that you do mean, it can be for a variety of reasons including candid discussion. I speak my mind for candid discussion. So if you're simply stating that Russia is fighting the West's imperialism with it's own, I agree and that's not criticism of Russia. But if you are criticizing Russia, then the question is why? If you don't mean it and are saying it for public image, you don't need to here. If you do mean it, then why? True criticism means you want the action to stop; it makes no sense to truly criticize something as wrong but still support it covertly. Your actions must match your true words. If you are simply observing that Russia is using imperialism to fight imperialism, no problem. But if you have a legitimate criticism of Russia, then I disgree, both in principle and in intended effect. In principle, Russia must hold itself to no rules when fighting the expansion of NATO. In effect, it makes no sense to sincerely criticize an ally while truly supporting its actions.
 

Atomicfrog

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I suspect that Russia may want to take Eastern Ukraine and hold the Dnieper river as well
In any case, the longer it's going, the longer Ukrainian will suffer. Even in the case of a incredible win or withdraw of Russian forces without concessions, reconstruction with the west help means incredible amount of unpayable loans that will cripple sovereignty forever anyway.
 
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