Ukrainian War Developments

BREAKING: Ukrainian official says Russian troops have landed in Odessa, others crossing the border into Kharkiv - NBC

My feeling is that Russia will do to Ukraine what it did to Georgia in 2008 or what China did to Vietnam in 1979, go in wreck its ability to pose a threat then pull back.

luosifen said:

My feeling is that Russia will do to Ukraine what it did to Georgia in 2008 or what China did to Vietnam in 1979, go in wreck its ability to pose a threat then pull back.

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Probably, but one doesn't pull back until the political objective has been achieved first.

Equation said:

Probably, but one doesn't pull back until the political objective has been achieved first.

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And that would be what objective?

9dashline said:

And that would be what objective?

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For Russia in this case to secure their buffer zone by implementing either a new regime in Kiev that are friendly to Russia and won't join NATO. That's my opinion.

in a way this is so typically russian, attack super quick and all encompassing...i am not optimistic about how long ukraine can hold out here.

I hope it’s not too late for me to start digging my fallout shelter !

I’m drinking my last bottle of champagne right now (well, sparkling wine)!

Just-In:

Sumy, Ukraine


Svatovo, Ukraine


Dnipro, Ukraine

So, thirty years after the fall of the USSR and Iraq-I, and twenty-years after Iraq-II, Russia is back at war on a major scale. And, of course, the US/Anglo/Zionist alliance won’t interpret this as a referendum on the past thirty-years of their abuse-of-power!

9dashline said:

And that would be what objective?

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Equation said:

For Russia in this case to secure their buffer zone by implementing either a new regime in Kiev that are friendly to Russia and won't join NATO. That's my opinion.

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I think @Equation is right. Ukraine has added a clause in its constitution that EU and NATO membership is a goal back in 2019. They also removed certain rights for Russian speakers in terms of education opportunities and government access. I think Russia will impose on them a new constitution, that reverts all of this, that they will remove the current government from power, and remove all their heavy weapons and ballistic missiles. They will also likely detain a bunch of people, like the guys who belong to Azov Battalion, to make an example out of them. Like Putin said "de-nazification" of Ukraine.

BTW here is Putin's speech given just before the operation started.

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