Ukrainian War Developments

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Overbom

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Coalescence said:
Jesus, just shut up, you're already doing this in the first place, and if you weren't then what the hell are you doing. All those Russian troops who will now come back home in body bags or castrated/mutilated is all on you Putin, if you don't take this "special operation" seriously then the army will take more losses than necessary, and all for what? For some dumb hope of making room for "negotiations"
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NATO will simply change to Ukrainian drivers in the Polish border before crossing to Ukraine.

As you noted, this statement is a non-story/smokescreen
 
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sheogorath

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Terrowyn said:
Ukraine has attacked Russian territory again.

Details on the village of Klimovo, Bryansk region

Confirmed: AFU hit the village of Klimovo in the Bryansk region - shells hit residential buildings, 7 people (among them one child and one pregnant woman) were injured.

Locals talk about three explosions at 12.08. The injured are in the hospital, three of them are in serious condition, one leg was torn off. Schools have been closed and children have been sent home.

Schools in the border areas of the Bryansk region are switching to distance learning from April 15.

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I would expect this to be good enough reason to escalate.
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If true, this along the Moskva hit should be enough reason to drop the "special military operation" and "brotherly war" bullshit and shift into a full war footing.

Switch from "hearts and minds" which isnt really working and go for "shock and awe"
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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meckhardt98 said:
*BREAKING*

Severe ammunition detonation on the Slava class cruiser Moskva; a fire has been recorded and an SOS has been sent out to all ships in immediate area.

This has been confirmed by the Russian MoD; it is unclear at this time whether or not the ship has been lost.
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Russia will say its air defences were “switched off “

meanwhile it sat in a middle of a war zone
 
Coalescence

Coalescence

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Overbom said:
NATO will simply change to Ukrainian drivers in the Polish border before crossing to Ukraine.

As you noted, this statement is a non-story/smokescreen
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All these poor performance from the Russian army is all bloody Putin's fault. They would be capable of achieving their aims earlier and with less loss if they didn't pull back any punches, instead they are still holding back, is this a bloody joke?
Now you have these events happening
Terrowyn said:
Ukraine has attacked Russian territory again.

Details on the village of Klimovo, Bryansk region

Confirmed: AFU hit the village of Klimovo in the Bryansk region - shells hit residential buildings, 7 people (among them one child and one pregnant woman) were injured.

Locals talk about three explosions at 12.08. The injured are in the hospital, three of them are in serious condition, one leg was torn off. Schools have been closed and children have been sent home.

Schools in the border areas of the Bryansk region are switching to distance learning from April 15.

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I would expect this to be good enough reason to escalate.
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What are you gonna do about it Putin? Send a weak non-credible threat? Have about you make good on your threat of destroying Ukraine's command center, or just shut up, you're an embarrassment to your domestic population.
 
escobar

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plawolf said:
That’s dangerously naive. Russia has been holding back massively and has a huge amount of scope for escalation and brinkmanship if they chose to do so.

They can declare a NFZ over the Black Sea and shoot down NATO drones to prove they are serious without starting a war.

They could announce a change to their rules of engagement to consider anything actively tracking their forces as active combatants that are providing targeting information to the Ukrainians, and thus free to be engaged without warning.

The main reason western Ukraine has been largely left thus far is because the VKS couldn’t mount effective SEAD/DEAD there owing to NATO AWACS and ISR being able to act as untouchable early warning radar and control centres for Ukrainian SAM TELs, who don’t even need to turn on their own radars before engaging.

With that advantage, SEAD is impossible, and every missile TEL vehicle needs to be destroyed to achieve DEAD, which is prohibitively costly. That’s why Russian air power has been so lacking in this campaign, in western Ukraine especially, and why NATO weapons shipments can flow freely into Ukraine without getting bombed to dust as soon as they cross the boarder.

Take away that AWACS support and weapons shipments become viable targets as Ukrainian SAM effectiveness drops off a cliff.
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You think RU can escalate by targeting NATO assets, I think as they are weaker than US, they can't.
NATO have been sending arms killing RU soldiers and they have done nothing but you think they will shot down NATO plane actively tracking their forces and providing targeting information to the Ukrainians. I want to see that but not going to hapen. The past proves me right
 
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Overbom

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RottenPanzer said:
I think it's best to assume that Putin has entered the "Late War Hitler Stage", where he currently lives on his own delusion and not bothering reading the real situation that has been going on
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Its called brother war. You bomb them with flowers and kisses, and then they surrender to you.

Modern war theories are outdated when you can so easily win against the opponent by waging brother war
 
plawolf

plawolf

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escobar said:
You think RU can escalate by targeting NATO assets, I think as they are weaker than US, they can't.
NATO have been sending arms killing RU soldiers and they have done nothing but you think they will shot down NATO plane actively tracking their forces and providing targeting information to the Ukrainians. I want to see that but not going to hapen. The past proves me right
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I think they can shoot down a few drones without triggering war with NATO. If NATO doesn’t take the hint and back down, I think Putin will shake his nuclear stick again.

If NATO still doesn’t back down, that’s when things gets really hairy.
 
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