An Argentina armed by China, maybe, an Argentina armed by Russia? Naaaahh.
Ukrainian War Developments
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Well, I myself is not on EU's side. If Russians feel that they don't see EU-Russia relations as important or even beneficial their country, then all the power to them for cutting down ties.
I think we are talking about totally different things. But sure, Syria did provide a good opportunity for Russia to work out strategic air transportation. The talent pool Russia is creating with this is certainly worth the while.
Again, we are talking about different things. Being a robust supplier of components, parts and designs is not the same as the provider of full final products.
For example, the Japanese semi-conductor industry was once a dominant and world leading all the way to final-product, their supply chain were pretty all domestic, except for the primary resources (petroleum and chemical ores). The US came in and basically destroyed it with a globalized distributed supply chain with pretty much 3 quarter of the industrialized world to finally subdued that robust Japanese industry. The US never gave Japan another chance, instead, they turn the Japanese into a upper stream component provider, forever locking Japan in this US dominated global supply chain.
This is what's going on with US led globalized aviation industry, that took part and design orders from Russia. Have you seen how much market Russian civilian final product (actual planes) lost to Boeing and Airbus.
That is the trend of the future, and I'd love to see Russia make good stride in this direction.
Yes, they do lack strategic foresight on this matter.
I don't know, I hope you are right. We will see.
I myself is big fan of a good CAS. I used to search extensively for good concept/fantasy design of "updated" A-10 and Su-25.
I am just not sure if that's where the future is heading, but your argument seems sound.
We shall see from this war.
I don’t see how this helps. These weapons aren’t going to the east. They will be stockpiled in west Ukraine. It will take weeks for the Ukrainians to be trained with these weapons.
Maybe they will send newly naturalized Ukrainian trained troops with them ? These shipments and stockpiles will be high on the list of strike anyway... don't know how many survives before field uses these days. NATO are draining a tons load of cash and equipment in that war that nobody will ever pay back beside the bloods of Russians and Ukrainians.
I was referring to the 1 country 2 systems agreement.
In the meantime, we now know what Boris was really doing in Kiev!
Honestly I thought Russia and its allies were the best propagandists. Maybe not.
Some of these commentaries are getting ridiculous. Please go visit Argentina once in your lifetime before making statements about what they should or should not do. And no, Argentina is not in a hurry to attack Falklands. They got serious economic problems on hand. And I say this as someone who loves argentinian culture.
And also, Russia is not going to have the resources to complete s70 anytime soon. Maybe they should start off by having a better surveillance drone than orlan.
And also, Russia is not going to have the resources to complete s70 anytime soon. Maybe they should start off by having a better surveillance drone than orlan.
A really pessimistic take from Strelkov…
8 YEARS SINCE THE ENTRANCE OF OUR DETACHMENT TO SLAVYANSK
So 8 years have passed since our detachment entered Slavyansk in the "April of hopes" of 2014.
Today, another participant in the defense of Slavyansk, the call sign "KAMAZ", died in Mariupol.
And, unfortunately, despite the fact that with an almost exactly 8 years delay, the Russian Federation openly intervened in the war (by forces "super-sufficient in the 14th", but extremely insufficient after 8 years) - the Victory is still as far away as in the summer of 2014. If not even further.
Looking at the idiotically ridiculous body movements of the Kremlin dwarves, I wonder:
"They are really waiting for the "twelve languages" to come to us again - to help the Ukrainians? Or maybe that's exactly what they want to quickly surrender and go down in History by the gravediggers of Russia and the Russian people? And they are so sweet about this coming role that they are morally ready to go to the tribunal of "dear Western partners" themselves?
Everything turned green in Donetsk. The most favorable weeks for the offensive are missed. There is no mobilization in the Russian Federation and is not yet expected. This means that in the NEXT FEW MONTHS YOU CAN NOT WAIT FOR VICTORY. It's good if at least there are no extremely offensive (and, most importantly, bloody) defeats for Russia.
8 YEARS SINCE THE ENTRANCE OF OUR DETACHMENT TO SLAVYANSK
So 8 years have passed since our detachment entered Slavyansk in the "April of hopes" of 2014.
Today, another participant in the defense of Slavyansk, the call sign "KAMAZ", died in Mariupol.
And, unfortunately, despite the fact that with an almost exactly 8 years delay, the Russian Federation openly intervened in the war (by forces "super-sufficient in the 14th", but extremely insufficient after 8 years) - the Victory is still as far away as in the summer of 2014. If not even further.
Looking at the idiotically ridiculous body movements of the Kremlin dwarves, I wonder:
"They are really waiting for the "twelve languages" to come to us again - to help the Ukrainians? Or maybe that's exactly what they want to quickly surrender and go down in History by the gravediggers of Russia and the Russian people? And they are so sweet about this coming role that they are morally ready to go to the tribunal of "dear Western partners" themselves?
Everything turned green in Donetsk. The most favorable weeks for the offensive are missed. There is no mobilization in the Russian Federation and is not yet expected. This means that in the NEXT FEW MONTHS YOU CAN NOT WAIT FOR VICTORY. It's good if at least there are no extremely offensive (and, most importantly, bloody) defeats for Russia.
Ooops! One less ally for Vladolf Putler. Even Marine thinks he's beyond the Pale:
i didnot said they not beneficial. i only said they are not important enough that prevent Russia for creating problems for EU that will ultimately undermine Europe and Euro.
This statement was made early 2013. i am sure there is scientific calculation behind it.
i agree with this point. but Russians may prioritize manpower in building and upgrading Tu-160M2 or so many other special mission aircrafts and drones. that they thing selling passenger airliness are secondary priority for global markets. It all about the best utilization of labor to put most effective pressure on others.
they built very advanced version for open skies project so advanced that the whole treaty went away now this plane is repurposed for other surveillance roles. the point there is design provisions already to repurpose it. A country with weak engineering skills that depends on others cannot manage it.
Frankly Japan does not have much chance to be independent as its technological base is in narrrow fields and they are certainly not known for software. than you add declining population means not much surplus manpower to train for really complex battlefield.
Japan is also culturally isolated from large part of world.
they will come back to produce more civilian plane as they have the engineering talent .they already investing in aviation in fundamental way. complete engines all the way to titanium valley and composites.
other examples are not really relevant. France is emotionally attached to Airbus despite it has no control how many it can produce and to whom it can sell. when i say emotionally attached it means the decision is not based on sound logic. . same thing happened to Sweden due to its aerospace now we have Chinese Volvo. Dutch had foresight to get rid of Fokker. i think most of weakness in countries manufacturing is when they over invest in Aerospace and let every thing else fall apart.
so far there is no proof that CAS aircraft utility is decreasing. infact they are the only one that sustain multiple sorties per day. i think Su-25SM3 are simple and not too tall like Flankers. much easy to prepare for sortie.
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