I was also curious so I googled and found this
Debt trap indeed
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I was also curious so I googled and found this
Debt trap indeed
Well, as much as I like Serbia and the former Yugoslav as a country and culture, I am actually not a fan of many of these small countries. Maybe it's because I am a bit too sensitive and nationalistic as a Chinese. They could have been a lot more open to Chinese military equipment exports like some ME country and SEA country and most of all, Pakistan. Yet, at times, they would rather receive Russia's flashy junk Mig-29s than the latest J-10C.
Of course, I won't blame Serbia, because Russia at least donated some of the Mig29 to Serbia for free. But if Serbia really treat China as a great friend, they should retire (or donate) all their Mig-29's and Soko J-22's and ask China to give them a good deal for 24 J10CE. Or, they could keep their Migs, and opt for replacing their junky Soko J-22 for 12 to 24 JF17 Block 3. Both these options would take care of their defense requirement for sure.
SinoSoldier
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Maybe they don't have the money. Up to now the Serbians have been focused on low-cost items like CH-92.
This is kind of a messed up situation to me.
Germany said they are out of weapons
Canada said they are out of weapons
Eastern European countries say they don’t have enough weapons to give
Is western MIC secretly financing this war or something? Countries are still buying Russian oil and gas weakening sanctions. Although manpower and materials are an issue for Russia to continue to pursue this war, financing is not so far. This leads to a slow burn phase. MIC would love this as it gives them a great opportunity to keep production going.
In the second article:
Viktor Yanukovich from what I heard was ousted for being pro-Russia, so this deal could be possible before because the situation is more secure for Russia, that China was given blessings to go ahead with the deal to gain influence and add some stability to the country. But after the coup, there was no reason why the deal would be honored as the president got ousted or there's no benefit for China to continue with it.
The article also talked about China trying to gain influence in Europe at that time, because of the instability happening in Asia-Pacific, so this could also be a move to try to gain more leverage and influence against US and EU. Just my two cents after skimming through the article and basing from what I remember.
Edit: Also before the war in Ukraine started, there were narratives from pro-Russian users in twitter going around that China would invest and help prop up Ukraine, if Ukraine chose to stay neutral and worked up a deal with Russia. So maybe that kind of supports the idea that China was playing a role as a guarantor or stabilizer during that time, and that they expected China to do so again.
In an interview, one of the soldiers of the Ukrainian army said that the most terrible thing is the work of Russian aviation in Ukraine. "Such a terrible thing is not for everyone, it already hurts the bones when aviation is working." Video, the work of Russian aviation in Ukraine
Imagine if they manage to land a hit against a Russian ship
"NEW: confirming the UK is sending Harpoon anti-ship missiles to Ukraine. Huge move, can do serious damage to Russian warships."
"NEW: confirming the UK is sending Harpoon anti-ship missiles to Ukraine. Huge move, can do serious damage to Russian warships."
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well, the US would be against anything China do or sell weapon to anybody .... even none of the US business really
Perhaps the US is so concern of the Serbian people would get a debt trap from China
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One would assume to operate a shore based Harpon system along with associated Radar might require more than leafing through the manual.
So do they come with instructors or is 100 hrs playing world of warships enough training?
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