"The same goes for Ukraine as well, if its existential for them ..."The same goes for Ukraine as well, if its existential for them, why do they have to pull moves like conscripting every male from age 18-60 or releasing prisoners with combat experience to be sent to war. Again, its not only about security, its also politically for Putin and ideologically for a majority of the Russian population.
NATO has completely destroyed handful of countries over fake allegations, it doesn't have to be nukes like I said. And no, I would have preferred this never happened, and for it either deescalate now through negotiations or surrender.
A lot of the users here are not directly cheering for genocide, they are cheering for their own sides. The pro-Ukraine users here a very quiet when videos of Ukrainian military are committing war crimes against Russian POW and their own citizens, and its kind of same for pro-Russian users here as well. Nobody here is impartial, and have their own biases and position on the matter. Personally, I want see Russia getting out of this situation with some kind of win, at minimal cost possible for both sides, because Russia is one of my country's major ally, China.
If you're going to ask me to choose between security and morals, I'm always going to choose security. If there's no choice and an immoral action must be done to secure it, then I have to begrudgingly accept it and find my own ways to negate or reduce the cost and suffering for those that got affected. Especially when the solution to the Taiwan question will inevitably come, I want to make sure the Taiwanese identity is preserved as much as possible and, autonomy provided and protected to what is possible, through activism and organizations. This is sadly just how the world works.
Absurd. Russia's invading Ukraine, NOT the other way around. Are there any Ukrainian troops in Russia?
When Germany (soon to be joined by the USSR) invaded Poland in 1939, the Poles rightly regarded it as an 'existential war'.
By your 'logic', Germany should have regarded an unconquered Poland as a dangerous threat to Germany's existence.
"A lot of the users here are not directly cheering for genocide, they are cheering for their own sides."
That's such a dishonest excuse. These writers apparently approve of 'their side' committing genocide.
Most Germans did not 'directly cheer for genocide', but it was a consequence of Nazi policies of conquest.
"The pro-Ukraine users here .."
Who are they exactly? Can you name them? Have they not been shouted down or personally attacked?