Ukrainian War Developments

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9dashline

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If this is true then this is really big fucking news man.

Like seriously, if real and Putin parades this guy on public TV. Biden poll numbers are going down faster than the titanic. Wouldn’t be surprised if the US public starts banging war drums.
you mean the Britannic (Titanic's sister ship) that sank in less than 30 minutes after it got torpedoed.
Titanic took 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink, almost as long as James Cameron's 1997 movie
 

Abominable

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If this is true then this is really big fucking news man.

Like seriously, if real and Putin parades this guy on public TV. Biden poll numbers are going down faster than the titanic. Wouldn’t be surprised if the US public starts banging war drums.
WTF? Now that is something I did not expect if true. Why on earth would a MAJOR GENERAL be so close to the frontlines?

Fxxk Putin if he agrees to that. They either leave Mariupol in hand ties or in a body bag. Give him the Guantanamo treatment.
 

Overbom

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That distorts the context. I wrote nothing about 'Chinese nationalist *ideology*'.

In fact, many writers here--who apparently are Chinese nationalists--have insisted that China must support,
perhaps even unconditionally, Russia's war on Ukraine because China's security needs such a Russian victory.
Why do you ignore the fact that many writers here have tied Russia's war on Ukraine with China's security needs?
China needs Russia for its rise against the West.

As such, Russia isn't allowed to (which it won't) fail on this war. If that happened, it would destabilise Russia, with a possibility of a Western puppet taking power. If that happened, this would be the greatest strategic catastrophe for China in a century and possibly derail its efforts for rising as a world power.

As such, contrary to Western delusions, China will never ever abandon Russia. The only question for the West (EU) is to what they can offer China to moderate its support for Russia. Ofc all this has to happen because the EU has increasingly taken a hostile stance towards China. If the EU had demonstrated a sincere attitude for good relations with China and being an independent power, China would be invested in taking into account EU's interests.

Unfortunately this hasn't happened, and instead has continued following US orders. All in all, this is more of a EU diplomatic failure than anything else. And as such, Xi is more comfortable to watching the EU burn down than being genuinely worried about helping the EU.

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Contrary to many people's belief, people here are actually very pragmatic and always take into account the wider geopolitical environment before start saying stuff. We support Russia because ultimately this means supporting China
 

FriedButter

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I took a peek at the article. This is supposedly the guy who got captured (if this is true).

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