Ukrainian War Developments

Abominable said:

Town close to Kiev gets hit repeatedly and indiscriminately by Ukrainian artillery, people die on the spot wherever they are. That's what it looks like to me. Why would Russians shell a town they are occupying? Or tie someone up just to shoot them on the street?

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I found this twitter thread that tried explain what happened, that I want to share:

Source is of course pro-Russian, but they do bring up some points about some unusual aspects in the video.

Coalescence said:

Seems like the narrative that the Russian troops not taking the war seriously is somewhat true, and leading to many embarrassing mistakes.

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There is no way to tell the truth of that story or not. One thing is that is almost certain is that from here on end, the Russians will not be accepting any food from locals.

Coalescence said:

I found this twitter thread that tried explain what happened, that I want to share:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1510416745474969601

Source is of course pro-Russian, but they do bring up some points about some unusual aspects in the video.

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One cannot ascertain the veracity of the claims by either sides based on just those photos.

Overbom said:

If true, another failure of Russian military discipline. Anyone who has been of the army would know that it is prohibited to feed soldiers with civilian food.

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So about 500 Russian soldiers written off. Quite a success i would say

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Knowing Russian (stereotype), the 500 alcohol poisoning was probably self inflicted...

Reminds me of a news a dude drank 1kg of fake二锅头 got sent to hospital and survived, I was thinking if I drink 1kg of real 二锅头 I'd be sent to the hospital as well and probably not survive it....

Does incorporating indoctrinated Neonazis or any other extremist groups into the Armed Forces of a nation state magically rid them of their indoctrination?

Coalescence said:

True, what I meant to say is that they're not taking it seriously enough that they disregard those basic military standards, or it could also be chalked up to incompetence/lack of discipline like you said.

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They hire people that make, maintain and operate reliable systems. that can work flawlessly round the clock sorties.
it is really high tech. not some concripts that can manage these things in the field.

RottenPanzer said:

There are Azov militants in Kiev region?

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There are. They are request send request to deblock those in Mariupol a weeks ago.

There also Aidar battalion which adopt same ideology. Fromn what I saw, they are operate in Kiev, Kherson and Odessa.

Overbom said:

If true, another failure of Russian military discipline. Anyone who has been of the army would know that it is prohibited to feed soldiers with civilian food.

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So about 500 Russian soldiers written off. Quite a success i would say

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How exactly does one end up with "alcohol poisoning" from eating tainted cakes? What did the Ukrainians do, drench some muffins in methanol?

A lot of these cases seem to be that of drunkenness, debauchery, and a general lack of discipline throughout Russia's ranks rather than an orchestrated "attack" by Ukrainian partisans.

enroger said:

Knowing Russian (stereotype), the 500 alcohol poisoning was probably self inflicted...

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Even if true, it very likely ain't happening again. And if true, those who gave it to them had better be gone before the Russians get hold of them.

There is signal jamming in the field. The reporter try to shoot some footage with drone，but the drone lost control and crashed