Sorry Sampan, but what you wrote is completely not true. So let's start.
It's not true. If you know Russian well you can talk with a person talking in Ukrainian but you won't be able to understand it 100%. You'll get what he's talking about and vice versa. And it's a common thing between Slavic countries. A Czech person will more or less know what Polish guy will say, Polish guy will have the same thing with a guy talking Slovak language and Russian guy will surely get the point what the Polish guy will say to him but he won't get 100%. That's how it works. Russian language isn't the same as Ukranian and that's why the're called Russian and Ukrainian in the first place. Period.Do you know anyone who lives there? Do you know each one of them? If no then I call this kind of generalisation as propaganda. A pro-Separatist propaganda. Don't talk with big words like 'people of the East Ukraine. You remember how the Separatists started a 'rebel' there? It took 40-50 men who mounted their 'blok-posts' in one 10,000 inhibitants city to claim it. Separatists didn't have to take any of the cities by force. They just claimed and haven't shot a single bullet there. That's how it worked. They didn't have any kind of immense support from people living there. They used propaganda to believe that Ukrainian forces are bad. And it worked. Do you want to know why? Do you remember the tragedy in Odessa when the crowd of right-wing Ukrainians burned people alive? Then the Separatists told the people there that since now it's their territory Ukranians will come there and do the same with them. Would they in reality? No, they wouldn't. Do you remember when the columns of Ukrainian tanks and heavy weaponry started to move there near Donetsk? The Separatists told people - 'you know, that's Ukrainians who started it, we had only Kalashnikovs with us when we came here'. And that's true but told in such a way to scare people living there. Peaceful people who don't want to fight. People who want to get back to their normal life as soon as possible. No matter if it's going to be Ukraine or anything else. They want to go to work, get the paycheck, go fishing or whatever they did earlier. That's all. That's not like all of people there support Separatists. A normal guy living in a home with his family will get upset if Ukrainians/Separatists if they mounted their positions on his posession. He's got wife, kids to care for. He's not interested in any pro-Russian or pro-Ukrainian propaganda. He just wants them to leave. And all that soldiers of both sides will tell him is 'We're really sorry, but right now the frontline is here and we can't do anything about it'... And Separatists forces aren't growing. It's still 20-40k forces as it was earlier.
You know what's the point of Ukrainian forces bombarding Donetsk? It's because of the normal people living there. No matter what one side will tell you that they aren't shooting from the city centers or Ukrainians only responding to the Separatist's fire. That's not true. Both sides fire from the city centers and Ukrainians sometimes just start shooting Grads without Separatists starting first. So let's get back to Donetsk. You can take the city by force. You know, infantry taking quarters of the city after quarter and so on. Ukrainians aren't doing that. That's because they know well that without the support of normal people living there the rebel will end without doubt. So they fire. When they fire they might destroy pipeline or water supply lines. People at first will get mad at Ukrainians. But after some time they will get mad at Separatists because after all, it's all their fault that Ukrainian artilery is firing at the city. That's the tactic they chose and I think that's rally bad thing from Ukrainian side. And that's not doing well for the Ukrainian morale when the only thing they do is sit on their a** without firing a single bullet for a month or so. So they start drinking heavily. On both sides. For days. Starting in the morning untill they go to sleep. It's much more severe on Ukrainian side because they hold the positions for a long time while the other side has to be more mobile but that's a problem there as well.lol, you write the Greece which doesn't want to give back money which they don't have and they don't want to cut all the social privilages because that's how strong years of EU donations got into their heads that they didn't had to work hard? It's not about Mr Putin but about money and Greece trying their to annoy those who paid their bills for years. They're doing that because of their own needs. Not Ukraine or Russia.
Good point Janiz and I would say that Sampan made some good points as well, so much of what we are feeling is about perspective, Eastern, Western, somewhere in the middle of this mess is the truth. Maybe perception is a better word? I will say that Mr. Putin is not some kind of liberator, his objectives are quite clear, these former Soviet Republics have declared their independence, he intends to bring them back into the fold???