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Netherlands rejects MH17 relatives' request for UN investigation
Published time: December 09, 2014 21:38

The Netherlands has rejected a demand to allow the UN to replace Dutch experts at the helm of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 investigation. The proposal was made by relatives of the plane's passengers.

The law firm that represents 20 relatives from Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands, and the US filed a letter request for “the UN to appoint a special envoy to take over” the inquiries on Friday, Reuters reported.

"The investigation by the Dutch Safety Board is being carried out not only by Dutch investigators," Dick Schoof, a senior justice ministry official, wrote in a reply to the law firm.

Schoof then provided a list of 11 countries which have already contributed to the investigation team – including Malaysia, Ukraine, and Russia.

The relatives behind the demand accuse the Netherlands of “completely botching" the investigation and the legal framework of the case.

They base their accusations on the fact that Dutch experts have been unable to access the crash site in eastern Ukraine, which is engulfed by internal conflict between the Kiev government and the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics.

The letter also blames investigators for failing to meet international requirements to secure evidence, as well as their inability to build a legal case to prosecute those responsible.

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed in southeastern Ukraine on July 17, killing all 298 people on board.

The victims came from 10 nations, though the majority of the passengers were citizens of the Netherlands.

Probes by the Dutch Safety Board and an international investigation team are still underway, with Kiev and local militias blaming each other for the tragedy.

The Boeing 777 was allegedly shot down, but it remains unclear whether it was downed by a surface-to-air missile or a military plane.

Also on Tuesday, the Safety Board said it will reconstruct the Boeing from the wreckage that was delivered to the Netherlands.

The Dutch experts said they will piece together the remains of the Boeing on a frame to determine exactly the cause of the crash.

Although some parts of the jet are missing and others were destroyed by fire, Safety Board head Tjibbe Joustra said that will not be a problem.

According to Joustra, the reconstruction will take months and a final report on the reason for the crash is not expected until mid-2015.

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delft said:

From RT.com:

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A picture of the eight trucks taking wreckage of MH17 to the Dutch airbase at Gilze-Rijen is included in the article.

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Miragedriver said:

Map of the new frontline, 7th of December

I will now get back to bottling my Malbec

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solarz said:

There's something I don't understand. Why is the Netherlands taking charge of the MH17 investigation? Why isn't it Malaysia?

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delft said:

First of all the first authority you think of is that of the country where an accident happens. Ukraine has an inexperienced service so that was a good reason to exclude it even without mentioning that it might have been concerned in the destruction of MH17 ( It was not mentioned ).

I haven't seen the list, but I can imagine severe reputable and irreputable reasons:
* Most of the victims are Dutch. This reasons was mentioned most.
* The Netherlands are nearby.
* The Dutch investigative authorities are more experienced than those of Malaysia.

Less respectable:
* The Malaysian authorities might not be biased against the people of Donetsk. That was shown to be true when the Malaysians recovered the black boxes when it was "too dangerous" for the Dutch investigators to travel further than Kiev.

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US flag proudly flies over the SBU building in Kiev
Well, we all knew that the last floor of the SBU (the Ukrainian terror police) building in Kiev was fully occupied by US CIA agents and that no Ukrainians access to it. But this is even better. Apparently, the US decided to fly its flag on the building's main entrance, just next to the Ukrainian one. See for yourself:

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an active work of the NORTHERN WIND, which lead to the defeat of Junta forces and precluded the possibility of a military defeat of

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Actually it was needed to do what could've been achieved in April at much lower cost. In this scheme, those who cried "Don't enter!" in Spring only achieved that [the territory] had to be entered repeatedly, using various euphemisms. This period ended with signing the Minsk Protocol, and "Strelkov" didn't interfere this time

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