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Pmichael

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asif iqbal said:
Jobs and work coming to Scotland

Scotland produces the world top tier stuff

I hear the Dutch, German and Swedish are good

but can they build a 65,000 ton carrier and worlds most advanced warships
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Yes, why not? If a country with no meaningful commercial shipbuilding industry can produce those things (with some delays and stuff), why shouldn't countries with military and actual commercial shipbuilding capacities not being capable of the same thing?
 
asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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Pmichael said:
Yes, why not? If a country with no meaningful commercial shipbuilding industry can produce those things (with some delays and stuff), why shouldn't countries with military and actual commercial shipbuilding capacities not being capable of the same thing?
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because I have not seen a carrier from either of them, unless they have launched one overnight which I didn't know about
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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I don't do pictures much, but thought I might share this view from inside of
Carrier Abraham Lincoln transits Strait of Hormuz for the first time since deployment
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The aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, left, the air-defense destroyer HMS Defender and the guided-missile destroyer USS Farragut transit the Strait of Hormuz on Nov. 19, 2019, with the guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf. (Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Zachary Pearson/U.S. Navy via AP)
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Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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according to wiki, Wellington had 68 thousand men at Waterloo, and according to
Top brass plans to shrink army
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"Senior officers are discussing an army of between 60,000 and 65,000, the smallest for centuries."

also this is interesting: "Wallace told navy chiefs the aircraft carriers could be deployed with US aircraft or escorted by Nato ships from other countries to cut costs."
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EDIT the third Defense Secretary this year

Apr 1, 2016
Jura said:
all I can say is God Save The Queen:
Why the Royal Navy has just been cut by another 2 ships
"There has been no official announcement but in early 2016 the surface fleet was effectively reduced by a further two ships.

HMS Dauntless, in commission for just 6 years has been reduced to harbour training ship statusand unlikely to go to sea for some time. Dauntless has suffered the most from the propulsion defects that have plagued the Type 45s. ... HMS Lancaster has been put into “mothballs”, or in MoD double-speak, “extended readiness”. ..." the source:
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Jura The idiot

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for those who thought I exaggerated in the post right above, linking the DefenseNews story of British prime minister’s party practically ignores defense issues as it preps for elections
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Jura The idiot

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Nov 27, 2018
Jura said:
Mar 22, 2018
now
Rolls-Royce to deliver MTU Series 4000 gensets for Type 45 propulsion overhaul
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and "BAES say they are not at liberty to comment and the MoD would not offer us any explanation other than to promise “The first of class PIP conversion is expected to complete in 2021 as planned”. To put this in context, ..."

... read the source which is
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also the Astutes and so on inside
 
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