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now skimmed over, actually jumped to Costs part hahaha,

HCDC HC 326 ‘UNCLEAR FOR TAKE-OFF – F-35 PROCUREMENT’ – FIRST SIX-MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
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to see

"The LRIP Lot10 price ($122.3million) ...",

over 1b already needed for what LockMart calls upgrades,

etc.
 

Air Force Brat

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now skimmed over, actually jumped to Costs part hahaha,

HCDC HC 326 ‘UNCLEAR FOR TAKE-OFF – F-35 PROCUREMENT’ – FIRST SIX-MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
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to see

"The LRIP Lot10 price ($122.3million) ...",

over 1b already needed for what LockMart calls upgrades,

etc.

Actually the report itself is very complementary, but that's the part you "skimmed"?? I've been telling you very honestly that 5 Gens are expensive, very expensive, but they are worth the money, and in the end they will keep the bad guys from doing stooped???

That's why the Russians and the Chinese are trying to move into the 5 Gen arena, but its a lot harder than it looks, even if you know how its done, the execution must be nearly perfect!

China may have 20 J-20's and 1 J-31 and 1 FC-31,,,, Russia may have 10 Su-57s, the numbers remain low, because unless you "nail it"?? you're not quite there yet...

Bully's don't like to be hit back, if it weren't for our amazing military and the generous people who love freedom and are willing to help others defend it and earn it, the "Free World", wouldn't be the "Free World",,,, sadly, the wimps and losers are gaining ground, and one day the free world will not be able to look to America to defend the defenseless!

and then, ALL HELL will break lose, mark my words young man
 
Actually the report itself is very complementary, but that's the part you "skimmed"?? I've been telling you very honestly that 5 Gens are expensive, very expensive, but they are worth the money, and in the end they will keep the bad guys from doing stooped???

That's why the Russians and the Chinese are trying to move into the 5 Gen arena, but its a lot harder than it looks, even if you know how its done, the execution must be nearly perfect!

China may have 20 J-20's and 1 J-31 and 1 FC-31,,,, Russia may have 10 Su-57s, the numbers remain low, because unless you "nail it"?? you're not quite there yet...

Bully's don't like to be hit back, if it weren't for our amazing military and the generous people who love freedom and are willing to help others defend it and earn it, the "Free World", wouldn't be the "Free World",,,, sadly, the wimps and losers are gaining ground, and one day the free world will not be able to look to America to defend the defenseless!

and then, ALL HELL will break lose, mark my words young man
I like "very expensive", but don't like hidden fees (LOL of course nobody has any I idea what "hidden fees" I'm talking about)
 

Air Force Brat

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I like "very expensive", but don't like hidden fees (LOL of course nobody has any I idea what "hidden fees" I'm talking about)

Of course we don't, you're just too smart for the rest of us! (humble little fellow), LOL Bub, I've been around the flying business since birth, airplanes are so damnable expensive, even light general aviation aircraft... so NO, they cost a hell of a lot of money, when an airplane is pressed into service because of desperation in the case of the F-35, and you elect to build and develop the aircraft concurrently to "get capability NOW!" you pay a price, things have to be "fixed", things have to be "modified", things that crack have to be redesigned,,,, sometimes the airplane has to be taken back to the bulkheads and stringers, and bulkheads replaced, doublers added, reinforcing bulkheads placed behind or ahead of existing bulkheads..

I worked in an aircraft shop, we had airplanes in all stages of rebuild, most from wrecks, but some just in for modifications, re-engine, re-skinned, I worked for a guy who could do nearly anything, sadly not much of that rubbed off on me?? I just did the simple stuff, so he could work his magic,,, he called me "night shift", LOL!

Its never fun, and the customers?? they didn't smile when they saw the bills, they just got out their checkbooks, while likely cussing under their breath!!!

there is a very old aviation adage, always true, probably Biblical! "if you want to make a small fortune in aviation, you must start with a LARGE one!"

thus will it ever be so.......

but, just to humor you?? duh, what is it????
 

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Here's my Royal Navy Carrier Strike Group in 1/350 scale. I had waited for the new Queen Elizabeth or Prince of Wales carriers to come out in 1/350 scale, they have not done so, and I wanted to get a video of what I did have in 1/350 scale out there. So here it is, on YouTube, centered on the HMS Illustrious, R06, the 2nd Invincible Class carrier, which relieved the Invincible in the Falkland Islands at the end of that war, and to provide air cover for Falkland Island and Port Stanley while they built a new air base which could receive and support sufficent Royal Air Force aircraft to keep the peace after the Illustrious left. Let me know what you think:

 

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Japan, Britain hold joint military exercise in central Japan
KOFU, YAMANASHI PREF. – Japan’s Ground Self-Defense Force on Tuesday showed to the media its first joint military exercise with the British Army in central Japan following an agreement by the two countries last year to strengthen bilateral security ties.

The drill began at a GSDF training school in Shizuoka Prefecture on Sunday. The troops were scheduled to hold more exercises through Oct. 12 at training areas in neighboring Yamanashi Prefecture and Miyagi Prefecture in the Tohoku region.



The British Army’s Lt. Gen. Patrick Sanders said the exercise symbolizes the deepening relations between Britain and Japan, and the British force hopes to remain committed to such drills in the future.

During Tuesday’s exercise, the two forces practiced how they might survey the locations of a potential enemy using the GSDF’s CH-47 transport helicopter. Under a scenario where they would move closer to the front line, some 20 members boarded the chopper......
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interestingly, Britain confirms talks with Boeing over potential $2.6B Wedgetail aircraft buy
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Britain’s defense secretary has revealed the government held discussions with Boeing over the purchase of a fleet of Wedgetail E-7 airborne warning and control aircraft. Discussions are also taking place with Australia about cooperating in the use of the aircraft, Gavin Williamson said.

Williamson said the Ministry of Defence had undertaken market analysis and discussions with other potential providers, concluding “that the potential procurement of the E-7 represents the best value for money option for the U.K. against need, whilst representing a significant opportunity for increased defense cooperation and collaboration with our key ally Australia.”

“The Wedgetail is the stand-out performer in our pursuit of a new battlespace surveillance aircraft, and has already proved itself in Iraq and Syria,” Williamson said.

The MoD said in a statement that further discussions are set to take place prior to an investment decision.

“If selected, U.K. industry could be involved significantly with the program, from modification work to through life support,” the MoD said.

Said Williamson: “The MoD will work closely with Boeing to ensure [exploration of] how Britain’s leading defense industry could also benefit from any deal.”

One company expected to benefit from any E-7 deal is the Marshall Aerospace and Defence Group.

Marshall already builds auxiliary fuel tanks for the Poseidon P-8 maritime patrol aircraft program, and industry sources say the Cambridge, England-based company is set to convert 737 aircraft to the Wedgetail configuration as part of the deal.

The talks with Boeing about raising U.K. content on the aircraft are an effort to head off likely criticism over handing yet another major contract to the U.S. defense giant without holding a competition and with little in the way of work coming to local industry.

Boeing Apache attack helicopters and Poseidon P-8 maritime patrol aircraft have both recently been purchased without a competition.

The U.S. contractor is, however, trying to nullify criticism over growing its workforce here to 2,300 and spending a sizable sum of cash building Poseidon support facilities at the aircraft’s main Royal Air Force operating base at Lossiemouth, Scotland.

“We work with our U.K. supply chain, government and military partners to provide critical capability, U.K. content, U.K. exports, skills and value for money to our armed forces,” a Boeing spokesperson said.

The intention to undertake two large, sole-source deals in the armored vehicle sector U.S. and German companies have fueled anger from a number of British defense companies over the country’s procurement policy.

Any British Wedgetail deal would be done with Boeing and not through the U.S. government’s Foreign Military Sales route.

Williamson did not provide details on cost and aircraft numbers, but up to six aircraft are expected to be procured to replace the Royal Air Force’s aged Sentry E-3D fleet. The cost is likely to be in excess of £2 billion (U.S. $2.6 billion), putting more pressure on Britain’s overcommitted defense budget.

The likelihood of Wedgetail being purchased as a single-source procurement has provoked anger among potential rivals like Airbus and Saab. The two European companies discussed joining forces earlier this year in a move to offer a credible and cheaper option to the Wedgetail.

In June, parliamentary Defence Committee Chairman Julian Lewis wrote an open letter to then-Defence Procurement Minister Guto Bebb, urging him to hold a competition to replace the Sentry E-3Ds.

Williamson’s announcement is also notable for the increasing depth of cooperation emerging between Britain and Australia.

Australia already operates a fleet of Wedgetails, and a small number of British Royal Air Force personnel have been training on the aircraft since mid-year.

“Our future with Australia will already see us operate the same maritime patrol aircraft [the P-8], Type 26 warships and F-35 jets. Wedgetail may join that formidable armory and help us work together to take on the global threats that we both face,” Williamson said.
 
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interestingly, Britain confirms talks with Boeing over potential $2.6B Wedgetail aircraft buy
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UK Looks To Wedgetail For E-3 Replacement
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Britain appears ready to once again sole-source from
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, this time to replace the E-3 Sentry airborne early warning capability (AEW&C).

Defense officials contend that the Australian Wedgetail version of the U.S. company’s 737-derived E-7 AEW&C platform “represents the best value for money,” to replace the
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’s (RAF) E-3D Sentry aircraft.

However, the decision is likely to aggravate industry and British lawmakers, who had called on the Defense Ministry to compete such a program long before the official announcement on Oct. 3 that formal negotiations with Boeing and the
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(RAAF) were underway. They had hoped to open the field to alternative platforms such as
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’s GlobalEye or Israel’s Gulfstream G550-based conformal AEW platform.

In July, the chairman of the UK’s Parliamentary Defense Committee, Julian Lewis, noting British interest in the E-7, said that choosing a Boeing-made aircraft would be “particularly inappropriate,” following the company’s involvement in urging tariffs to be imposed on Bombardier’s C Series airliner last year. Had tariffs come to pass, they would have had a negative effect on Bombardier’s workforce in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

Britain has already taken the decision to sole-source the P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft from Boeing despite other platforms being available. That decision was partly driven by the need to bring a new capability on stream quickly, closing a decade-long capability gap by the time the first aircraft is delivered in 2019.

And officials are likely to make the same argument for the E-7; RAF exchange officers are already serving with the Wedgetail community in Australia, gaining knowledge of the platform.

The Defense Ministry also points out that a procurement will help to bolster the UK’s defense relationship with Australia, which earlier this year announced it had selected the
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-developed Type 26 warship.

“The Wedgetail is the standout performer in our pursuit of a new battlespace surveillance aircraft and has already proved itself in Iraq and Syria,” said British Defense Secretary Gavin Williamson on Oct. 3, as he prepared to brief NATO counterparts on the plans in Brussels. “It could be an excellent asset for the RAF and give us a real edge in this increasingly complex world,” he added.

Defense officials say they will work closely with Boeing to ensure that UK industry will benefit from the deal, although this could be a minor crumb of comfort. British content on the P-8, for example, is approximately 5%: British companies supply crew seats, weapon pylons, auxiliary fuel tanks and cockpit windshields.

“We work with our UK supply chain, government and military partners to provide critical capability, UK content, UK exports, skills and value for money to our armed forces,” a spokesman for Boeing UK tells Aviation Week.

Boeing is investing in new facilities in Scotland to support the P-8s and plans to open an industrial base at Boscombe Down, England, although the latter has not yet been formally announced.

It is possible that British companies could be involved with the conversion and integration work in the same way Australian and Turkish industry were involved in the Wedgetail and Peace Eagle programs, respectively.

The E-7 is also in service with South Korea and has been selected for use by Qatar, too.

It is an open secret that the RAF has been flirting with the idea of an E-7 procurement for years.
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several times about senior RAF officers who are known to have been extensively briefed on the E-7 by the manufacturer and the RAAF. The Australians were even requested by the defense ministry to bring the aircraft to the last two Royal International Air Tattoo air show events.

No details have yet emerged about the time line or budget for an E-7 purchase, or for the number of aircraft. Britain currently has six E-3D Sentry in its inventory but only one or two are operational at any one time.

Britain purchased seven E-3D Sentry aircraft at the end of the Cold War to replace the obsolete AEW radar-equipped Avro Shackleton. Although they are the youngest E-3s operating anywhere in the world, austerity measures imposed since the 2008 financial crisis have resulted in the aircraft and its onboard systems lagging far behind those operated by France, NATO and the U.S. Air Force.

This issue was recognized in the 2015 Strategic Defense and Security Review, which committed the government to a capability sustainment program to upgrade and extend the life of the aircraft to 2035, but the prohibitive cost of the program has officials rethinking this decision.

The airworthiness of the E-3s may also be a factor.

In October 2016, wiring issues prompted the grounding of the RAF E-3 fleet. It was later revealed that electrical wiring had sparked a fire in thermal blankets on one of the aircraft. Officials have compared the seriousness of the apparent near-loss of the aircraft to the crash of a Nimrod reconnaissance aircraft over Afghanistan in 2006, an event that prompted a wholesale review of military airworthiness standards and procedures. The issues with the E-3 have since been resolved, but availability of the fleet remains at a stubbornly low level.

Compared to the E-3, the E-7 is a more reliable platform, with reduced manpower requirements and a more capable—and future-proof—active, electronically scanned array radar produced by
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.

There are also potential logistics chain benefits because the E-7 shares some commonality with the P-8, although these could be lessened if the British E-7s are developed from the
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MAX 7 and its new engines.

However, the UK would lack the ability to refuel the E-7A because it is only equipped with a boom-refueling receptacle, and British tankers are not yet compatible with this system.

Australian Defense Minister Christopher Pyne says industry in his country would benefit from Britain’s purchase of the Wedgetail. And he notes that interoperability between the two nations—both of which, along with Canada, New Zealand and the U.S., are members of the Five Eyes security agreement—would be enhanced.

“A UK procurement will add to the global fleet of Wedgetails, already including Australia, Turkey and South Korea, which can be supported and sustained by Australian industry and create hundreds of Australian jobs,” Pyne says.

“Deeper engagement between both countries’ defense industries, including through increased exports and industry partnerships, will further strengthen our bilateral relationship with the UK.”

“Our future with Australia will already see us operate the same maritime patrol aircraft, world-class Type 26 warships and supersonic
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jets,” Williamson says. “Wedgetail may join that formidable armory and help us work together to take on the global threats we both face.”
 
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"Williamson confirmed the Royal Air force wants the first Wedgetail handed over by 2022. That’s a sign of how fast the current 26-year-old fleet of Sentry aircraft are aging and Britain’s desire to address the latest threats."
 
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