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FYI, Daring, Dauntless and Diamond are Batch 1. Dragon, Defender and Duncan are Batch 2.

If ships 7 & 8 are ordered (more unlikely than likely at the moment) they would be Batch 3.

And given the noises coming out of places in and around the Government lately, the Armed Forces in general and the Navy in particular may find itself doing with a good deal less. The Type 45, by all accounts, is an excellent warship with a good deal of potential in it as well; 6 ships of the class will not be enough, especially when so much of the rest of the Fleet will not be replaced anyway.
 
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Defence Minister Baroness Taylor today announced a £35 million major upgrade to the Royal Navy frigate HMS Sutherland. New equipment valued at £18 million will be installed as part of a general overhaul of the ship under a £17 million contract with Babock Marine at their Rosyth dockyard in Scotland.

The Type 23 frigate is to get:
• the Navy’s latest and most sophisticated submarine hunting sonar system, capable of identifying submarines at an even greater range.
• an advanced Seawolf air defence missile system, which will counter the advanced threat from missiles and fixed wing aircraft.
• a new improved main gun, capable of firing long-range ammunition.
• a reshaped stern to cut fuel use.

FYI the "advanced" Seawolf is the Block 2 version.
 

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This is great news!..I hope the RAF turns these F-35Bs over to the RN..Is that the true paint scheme??? Or is that just for this "photo op"?

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Air Marshal Sir Barry Thornton, center, from the United Kingdom, waves as he is introduced during an unveiling ceremony for the Lockheed Martin Corp. F-35B stealth fighter, background, in Fort Worth, Texas, Tuesday, Dec. 18, 2007. At left is Marine Lieutenant Gen. George J. Trautman III and Tom Burbage, right, executive vice president and general manager of the F-35 program with Lockheed Martin. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)​
 
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This is great news!..I hope the RAF turns these F-35Bs over to the RN..

Future plans are not certain, but current suggestions are that the F-35s will operate as Joint Force Harrier does - both the RN and RAF's birds operating under one command in the RAF.

Either way the Royal Navy will have the use of the F-35B. :)
 
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Northrop Grumman, a US-based global defence and technology company, has announced that it has been selected by the UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD) to provide an integrated navigation and bridge system (INBS) for the Future Aircraft Carriers (CVF) project.

Through INBS, Northrop Grumman aims to meet the ships' operational requirements by bringing together their navigation sensors and systems into a modern, efficient and ergonomic bridge.
 

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Astute class in the water now.
 

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in the Financial Times, 11 January, 2007:

The Ministry of Defence is examining possible delays to its £4bn contract for two new aircraft carriers as it struggles to meet Treasury demands for swingeing cuts to its budget.
The MoD had been expected to agree a manufacturing contract with the industry alliance building the Royal Navy carriers as early as next week, but that now looks likely to slip.
Officials have begun to take informal soundings about the implications of a possible delay to the ships, people close to the talks confirmed last night. Scenarios under discussion range from slipping expenditure on the programme to later years - thereby staggering the cost for the MoD - to delaying the programme by up to 18 months.
The carriers are scheduled to enter service in 2014 and 2016 and had been viewed as one of the few big-ticket items to escape the impending cuts.

MoD is already struggling with a budget that the article reports may be as much as 2 billion pounds short to meet current expenses, and the Government has not yet signed the necessary 15-year committment with the would-be prime contractors. The Government faces re-election in the fairly near future, which may complicate matters even further. Not a single steel plate has yet been cut for the carrier project. At this rate, even if the CVF Project does get off the ground, it may be at least half a decade behind; after all, the first steel was originally planned to be cut in 2005.
 
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At this rate, even if the CVF Project does get off the ground, it may be at least half a decade behind; after all, the first steel was originally planned to be cut in 2005.

The time-frames of 2014 and 2016 have taken into account the delay so far.

As to the article, the MoD denied it pretty much out of hand and said everything was on course. They wouldn't do that if things were problematic because they'd be painting themselves into a corner.
 

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by Michael Smith (The Sunday Times):

The Ministry of Defence is being forced to slash its planned budget by £1.5 billion a year over the next three years, leaving the armed forces vying with each other to hold on to their new ships, aircraft and armoured vehicles.
The Royal Navy's two planned aircraft carriers, central to the armed forces' capabilities, will be postponed by up to two years in an attempt to delay paying much of the £4 billion bill for as long as possible.
The government announced in July it was increasing the defence budget by 1.5% a year taking it to £36.9 billion in 2010-2011.
It also committed itself to building the two giant carriers, a new series of armoured vehicles for the army and the new nuclear deterrent.

But the black hole in the defence budget is so large — close to £2 billion this year and as much as £5 billion over the next three years — that the budget increase will not prevent cuts.

Apparently, the third tranche of 88 Typhoons is considered unnecessary by the Treasury, and it also wants the JSF acquisition reduced; 2 Tornado GR.4 squadrons are to be eliminated. The Navy will be reduced to 20 from 25 escort ships, losing one Type 23 frigate and all 4 Type 22's (granted these are old). The carriers are delayed by two years; as Fu mentioned, this means 2014 and 2016 are the planned dates for QE and PoW.
 
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Apparently, the third tranche of 88 Typhoons is considered unnecessary by the Treasury, and it also wants the JSF acquisition reduced; 2 Tornado GR.4 squadrons are to be eliminated. The Navy will be reduced to 20 from 25 escort ships, losing one Type 23 frigate and all 4 Type 22's (granted these are old). The carriers are delayed by two years; as Fu mentioned, this means 2014 and 2016 are the planned dates for QE and PoW.

I think you're crossing your wires.

1. The Treasury is targetting one of those projects, not all of them.
2. The carriers have already slipped to 2014 and 2016 - another two years' delay would go on top of that.
 
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