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abc123

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It's really sad to see such a famous navy as RN to drop so low these days, with big promise of even deeper fall in the future... :-(
 

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Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon has revealed the identity of the two new P-8 Poseidon squadrons.

120 Squadron will form in April 2018 and 201 Squadron will form in 2021
Fallon said:

“They will be based in RAF Lossiemouth in Morayshire and their names will be 120 Squadron recalling the RAF’s highest scoring anti-submarine unit in World War II. And 201 Squadron named after one of the RAFs oldest formations.

Our nine new Poseidon aircraft are part of our plan to monitor and deal with increased threats to our country. They can operate at long range without refuelling and have the endurance to carry out high and low-level airborne maritime and overland surveillance for extended periods, helping keep us safe.

The P-8A aircraft will allow us to work more closely with our allies, improve our surveillance coverage and will provide value for taxpayers’ money.”

The first two P-8 Poseidon aircraft for the United Kingdom were ordered recently under a $2.2bn contract.

The Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Stephen Hillier said:

“Today is an important milestone in the P-8A Poseidon programme which will bring to the Royal Air Force an unrivalled maritime patrol capability. The advanced state-of-the-art sensors aboard the P-8A will provide global protection to UK, NATO and our Allies’ submarines and warships, and enhance and complement the UK’s standing search and rescue responsibilities.

It is also a great pleasure to welcome back 120 and 201 Squadrons. Both have long and distinguished records serving in the maritime role and together they will help forge the next generation Royal Air Force.”

Boeing was awarded the contract for at least 17 P-8 Poseidon aircraft. The agreement also includes options for 32 additional aircraft, as well as money for long-lead parts for future orders. After exercising all options, the total contract value will be $6.8 billion.

In November 2015, the UK announced its intention to order nine P-8 aircraft as part of the Strategic Defence and Security Review 2015. The aircraft are to be based at RAF Lossiemouth, Scotland and be used to protect the UK’s nuclear deterrent and new aircraft carriers, as well as to perform search-and-rescue and overland reconnaissance missions.

In March 2016, the US State Department approved a proposed Foreign Military Sale to the UK for up to nine P-8 aircraft and associated support, at an estimated cost of $3.2 billion.

The Royal Air Force plans to operate the P-8 with US weapons initially, and possibly transition to British weapons later.

Jamie Burgess, vice president of Boeing Military Aircraft’s Mobility, Surveillance & Engagement division and the P-8 programme manager said:

“The P-8A is a textbook example of Boeing’s commercial derivative expertise. Every day our customers get to fly incredible aircraft that perform exceptionally well and are built by the best of Boeing.”

The US Navy will receive 11 aircraft, while Australia will expand its P-8A fleet with four more.

Manufacture of the British aircraft will be spread across three production lots over a ten-year period, with deliveries commencing in 2019.

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no money for sailors but they
"... continued to explore the potential for the Type 45 Destroyers to operate in a ballistic missile defence role, including through active engagement with NATO partners."
right now I feel I'll go ballistic

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Type 45 Destroyers
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To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, with reference to paragraph 4.16 of the National Security Strategy and Strategic Defence and Security Review 2015, what recent representations his Department has received from NATO on the Government's commitment to investigate further the potential of the Type 45 destroyers to operate in a BMD role.

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Since the Strategic Defence and Security Review 2015, the UK has continued to explore the potential for the Type 45 Destroyers to operate in a ballistic missile defence role, including through active engagement with NATO partners.
 

Jeff Head

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I love to see more and more of those aircraft.

I have a good friend who worked for and retired from Boieng whose last big project was with the P-8.

We have some GREAT talks about that bird.

Love to see the US Navy getting theirs...and the Indians, the Aussies, the UK...looks like Norway will get them too.

I expect several other nations to take a hard look at them as their P-3Cs or other MPAs get long in the tooth. Look for Italy, Canada, Turkey, New Zealnd, and even Saudi Arabioa to take a hard look at thm. I expect some of them will choose the P-8, along with others.

I well timed, and capable future path for all of those P-3 Orion users out there.

Anyhow, the US Navy is getting their Squadrons decked out and they are using them around the globe now.
 

abc123

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Steel cut for first Type 26 Frigate, vessel named HMS Glasgow
July 20, 2017
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the officials must be boasting today, but will they tell you there's 18 years hiatus of building Frigates for the RN?

anyway, I wish good luck to the HMS Glasgow!


1,4+ billions USD for half-armed frigate with allmost no newly developed systems on her?

Perversion...
 
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I read in Twitter it's a new chart;

I assume it shows the standard displacement figure
I mean with 8k full displacement and 48+24=72 tubes (if ever fitted), they would get at 72/8 which is nine; context: Jul 5, 2017
 
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now I got upset! calling
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in the present misery of the Royal Navy, inside
Queen Elizabeth class supercarriers represent ‘powerful strategic deterrent’
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Why are the Queen Elizabeth class carriers so big?
July 21, 2017
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Clown journalist talking Nelson again, but I got by this, quit reading later, at this moment:

"It takes sheer size to provide enough protection against all the weapons likely to be used against a carrier, from bombs to cruise missiles to torpedoes. This lesson comes from the second world war, where lessons learned from operations with the large converted battlecruisers in comparison with the smaller purpose-built aircraft carriers had taught both the Royal and US Navies that large carriers were more survivable than smaller ones due primarily to the large number of watertight compartments."

I would've thought somebody writing about naval matters might know
  1. the RN didn't have any "large converted battlecruisers";
  2. the large converted battlecruiser USS Lexington went to the bottom of the Coral Sea
 
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