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here, let me add two questions:

  1. Will the RN be able to man two supercarriers? If you think my question is weird, and if you think the RN has too FEW Type 45 Destroyers, then you should probably look here: Jul 31, 2016
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    says "In April 2016,
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    stated that the vessel had been relegated to use as a training ship due to manpower and technical shortages, although this is disputed by the MOD.
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    so now the author should probably check
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    HMS Dauntless:Written question - 40030
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    (Dunfermline and West Fife)
    "To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, whether HMS Dauntless is being used as a harbour training and accommodation ship."

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    "The introduction of Engineering Training Ships is an important component of the Royal Navy's comprehensive programme to improve training and career development opportunities by increasing training capacity.

    Ships in the operating cycle immediately ahead of refit will be used to deliver training alongside home Bases and Ports. HMS DAUNTLESS entered this profile in February this year. A reduced Ship's Company reside on board as normal, augmented by trainees who use the opportunity to gain experience through development activities in a realistic environment."
    (meaning: RN suffers from personnel shortage and acts if it had too MANY Type 45 Destroyers)
  2. What will be anti-ship weapons on the supercarriers? I borrowed this from FORBIN:
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    Futur weapons load, 1/ ASRAAM, 2/ Meteor, 3/ Brimstone
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    I guess it will be the task of escorts vessels (with Harpoons, had they mounted some)
 

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I see Jeff you pulled it from
Aircraft Carriers III
here, let me add two questions:

  1. Will the RN be able to man two supercarriers? If you think my question is weird, and if you think the RN has too FEW Type 45 Destroyers, then you should probably look here: Jul 31, 2016
    (meaning: RN suffers from personnel shortage and acts if it had too MANY Type 45 Destroyers)
  2. What will be anti-ship weapons on the supercarriers? I borrowed this from FORBIN:
    I guess it will be the task of escorts vessels (with Harpoons, had they mounted some)
Manpower is an issue when the Armed Services are not held up as a critical, honorable, and good things to do for your country.

Despite the left's best efforts here in the USA, we still have large numbers of servicemen and women re-upping, and new people coming out of school and enlisting.

It seems perhaps the UK has fallen off in this area. You would think that there would be a rush to join up for the privilege of serving on one of the new carriers.

As to the offensive weapons, for a carrier that will always be the attack aircraft on the carrier. In this case, the F-35Bs and the air to surface missiles they will carry.. The have internal hard points where missiles like the NSM can be fitted, and hard points on the wings where Harpoons, JASSMs, and ultimately the LRASM can be carried.

Those simply have to be the offensive weapons of the carrier, so its aircraft can carry them hundreds of miles to the enemy and then release them at a good distance to attack the enemy.

If they do not have that...there is no sense in having the carrier.
 

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Unbelievable!

In 2014 they spent over 65 million pounds to refurbish her...and now hey are going to scrap her in 2018?

The MoD should be renamed to be MAD, as in Madness!

@Obi Wan Russell What are these people smoking?

What are they injecting into their veins?

Nobody has any right to be surprised when the MoD makes an idiotic decision like this, the British MoD has also been this hilarious.
 

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Naval Today said:
The first of the Royal Navy’s new style of River-class offshore patrol vessels has entered the water for the first time.

Forth completed her 1¾-mile journey from BAE Systems shipyard at Govan on the Clyde to the company’s Scotstoun site.

The first plate of steel was delivered to Govan in October 2014, with the ship structurally complete 18 months later.

Forth will now be fitted with her systems and undergo testing at Scotstoun before being handed over to the Royal Navy in 2017.

The cutting-edge technology of the Royal Navy’s versatile new offshore patrol vessels will enable these warships to carry out a wide range of tasks, from disaster-relief missions to maritime security,” said Vice Admiral Simon Lister, Chief of Material (Fleet) for Defence and Equipment and Support.

“Supported by a rising Defence budget, the rollout of HMS Forth reflects the success of the OPV programme, safeguarding the vital capability and skills that will be used in the delivery of the Royal Navy’s Type 26 frigates.”

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Pacific Sentinel said:
FINCANTIERI

The Italian group contracted by the Australian Government to participate in the Competitive Evaluation Process for the Future Frigates Programme – SEA 5000

Trieste, September 1st, 2016 – Fincantieri, one of the world’s largest shipbuilding groups and number one by diversification and innovation, has signed a contract with the Australian Government to participate in the Competitive Evaluation Process, conducted by the Department of Defence, to deliver 9 Future Frigates - to be built in Adelaide, South Australia - for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) under the SEA 5000 programme.

Fincantieri is one of three shipbuilders short-listed by the Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group (CASG), part of the Department of Defence, to participate in the evaluation and selection process, which will last about one year. Similar agreements were signed also by Navantia and BAE Systems.

Fincantieri is offering its Italian FREMM Frigate (ASW, Anti-submarine warfare version), which is currently in service and being built for the Italian Navy.

Giuseppe Bono, CEO of Fincantieri, commented: “We are fully committed to this programme, which represents one of the most important naval surface shipbuilding projects in the world. This is the first ever contract signed by Fincantieri with the Australian Department of Defence and we are very excited by the opportunity to participate in the evaluation process and to propose the very best of the Italian shipbuilding design and construction. We hope that this will be only the first step in this important programme, in which our company would be able to put its wealth of experience, know-how, capabilities and transfer of technology at the service of the Australian Government and its Navy”.
Fincantieri Italian FREMM (ASW Version) for SEA 5000

There are currently 10 ships in the Class – four in ASW Anti-submarine warfare configuration (bow sonar plus towed variable depth sonar) and six in GP General Purpose configuration (rapid response RHIB ramp at stern).

The ships are electric motor driven at low speed for ASW operations and Gas Turbine driven at high speed (at which time the electric motors become alternators). Hangar space is available for two MH-90 sized helicopters. Initial studies have shown that the CEA radars can be easily accommodated with little modification apart from the main mast.
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Type 26 Global Combat Ship for SEA 5000 (image- BAE Systems).jpg

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BAE SYSTEMS

BAE Systems has signed a contract with the Commonwealth Government to further refine its design of the Type 26 Global Combat Ship (GCS) for the Royal Australian Navy under the SEA 5000 (Future Frigate) program.

BAE Systems Australia Chief Executive, Glynn Phillips, said: “We look forward to demonstrating the adaptability and maturity of the Global Combat Ship design to meet Australia’s requirements for an Anti-Submarine Warship frigate. The Global Combat Ship design is the most modern, adaptable and flexible of all possible options available today, and I am confident that we will be able to demonstrate that it is the best able to meet the requirements of the Royal Australian Navy.”

In coming months, a team of BAE Systems’ Australian engineers will be deployed to the UK to join the Company’s established design team. Being embedded into the one of the most advanced warship building teams in the world will allow these engineers to acquire the skills and knowledge required to effectively transfer the technology to Australia.

BAE Systems is using the latest in modern digital planning capability to refine and tailor its designs to the Commonwealth of Australia’s requirements. To assist this process, the Company has revealed that, a 3-dimensional visualisation suite will be delivered to Australia to help improve understanding of the unique features of the ship design. This will enable conversations about design modifications the Royal Australian Navy requires and will help demonstrate how the Global Combat Ship could accommodate the required CEA Technologies’ phased-array radar system.

This is part of the Australian Department of Defence’s Competitive Evaluation Process for the program. The Commonwealth has also entered into similar agreements with Fincantieri and Navantia.

The Global Combat Ship is the most adaptable and flexible design and best suited to meet the operational requirements of the Royal Australian Navy.

BAE Systems is one of the world’s leading designers, builders and systems integrators of naval ships and submarines. BAE Systems Australia has been building, upgrading and maintaining the Royal Australian Navy’s surface fleet for more than 30 years.

BAE Systems is currently supporting and upgrading the ANZAC Class Frigates, sustaining the largest ships in the fleet – the Landing Helicopter Docks, as well as the Adelaide Class Frigates, Minehunters and the Hydrographic Fleet.
 
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(Q: ...) so how much will building HMS Forth cost?
(A): HMS Forth will cost £116 Million, Britain can be proud that the Royal Navy will own the most expensive OPV in the world.
 
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