Typhoon Haiyan Disaster in the Philippines

plawolf

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A list of what different nations have pledged.

AUSTRALIA – US$10 million package
BELGIUM – medical and search and rescue personnel
BRUNEI – in kind donations
CANADA – C$5 million
CHILE – humanitarian aid
CHINA – $100,000
DENMARK – KR 10 million
EUROPEAN UNION – EUR 3 million
GERMANY – 23 tons of relief goods
HUNGARY – search and rescue personnel and rapid response team
INDONESIA – in-kind donations
ISRAEL- team of medical, trauma and relief professionals
JAPAN – $10 million
MALAYSIA – medical and search and rescue teams
THE NETHERLANDS – undisclosed financial aid
NEW ZEALAND – NZ $2.15 million
NORWAY – KR 20 million
RUSSIA – rapid response team, rescue workers and an airmobile hospital
SAUDI ARABIA through Prince Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud – US$100,000
SINGAPORE – $50,000+ $100,000 in relief good supplies
SPAIN – in-kind donations
SWEDEN- emergency communications equipment
TAIWAN – $200,000
TURKEY – medics, rapid response team, search and rescue personnel
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES – Dhs 36 million
UNITED KINGDOM – £6 million and $9.6 million worth of emergency support package
UNITED NATIONS Children’s Fund – $1.3 million worth of supplies
UNITED STATES – $20 million + Troops, emergency respondents, transportation and equipment
VATICAN – $150,000
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China's contribution is hardly a stand out. It's not giving as lavishly as some, but it's not giving significantly less than most either.

Its telling that China is getting singled out when other, major economies have given less or are not even on the list as having pledged anything. Germany is only providing a small amount of relief supplies, and France isn't even on the list of donors at all.

I would also like to see a detailed timeline of when exactly the initial Chinese pledge of 100k was made, because if that was made before the full extent of the damage Haiyan caused was known, then its even more ridiculous to have a go at China. The new pledge of $1.6m could have been an adjustment made after it was known just how bad the damage was.

If China was really out to make a point, it could have offered one dollar. Even the initial 100k isn't pocket change and is a meaningful amount that will make a difference. To attack an unsolicited act of charity and kindness in such a way is unseemly and deeply despicable.
 
solarz

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plawolf said:
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A list of what different nations have pledged.



China's contribution is hardly a stand out. It's not giving as lavishly as some, but it's not giving significantly less than most either.

Its telling that China is getting singled out when other, major economies have given less or are not even on the list as having pledged anything. Germany is only providing a small amount of relief supplies, and France isn't even on the list of donors at all.

I would also like to see a detailed timeline of when exactly the initial Chinese pledge of 100k was made, because if that was made before the full extent of the damage Haiyan caused was known, then its even more ridiculous to have a go at China. The new pledge of $1.6m could have been an adjustment made after it was known just how bad the damage was.

If China was really out to make a point, it could have offered one dollar. Even the initial 100k isn't pocket change and is a meaningful amount that will make a difference. To attack an unsolicited act of charity and kindness in such a way is unseemly and deeply despicable.
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Absolute truth. Germany is the world's 4th largest economy, France the 5th. Russia is the world's largest nation and arguably the second most powerful. None of them have pledged any monetary aid whatsoever.

This is a disgusting smear campaign on the level of the 2008 Tibet "riots".
 
Blackstone

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solarz said:
The duty of a great power is first and foremost to be responsible toward its own citizens. All other considerations takes second place.
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But wait, Chinese officials say China works to benefit not only her own citizens, but humanity in general. Apparently, a helping hand from China for major disasters in other countries is $100k. Oops, not $100k (shamed in giving more), $1.6 million.
 
solarz

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Blackstone said:
But wait, Chinese officials say China works to benefit not only her own citizens, but humanity in general. Apparently, a helping hand from China for major disasters in other countries is $100k. Oops, not $100k (shamed in giving more), $1.6 million.
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Your kind of reaction is exactly why the CCP should have stuck to their $100k contribution.
 
Blackstone

Blackstone

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solarz said:
Absolute truth. Germany is the world's 4th largest economy, France the 5th. Russia is the world's largest nation and arguably the second most powerful. None of them have pledged any monetary aid whatsoever.
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Um, ok. But, China compares herself to the United States, and thinks she's better than Nippon. Right...?
 
solarz

solarz

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Blackstone said:
Um, ok. But, China compares herself to the United States, and thinks she's better than Nippon. Right...?
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Wrong on so many levels I'm not even going to bother explaining. Suffice it to say that your fantasy of what China is about has nothing to do with reality.
 
Blackstone

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plawolf said:
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A list of what different nations have pledged.
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Thanks for the list. Very instructive.



I would also like to see a detailed timeline of when exactly the initial Chinese pledge of 100k was made, because if that was made before the full extent of the damage Haiyan caused was known, then its even more ridiculous to have a go at China. The new pledge of $1.6m could have been an adjustment made after it was known just how bad the damage was.
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But in your heart, you suspect it's far more likely Chinese leaders were embarrassed by the snickering heard around the world, and Xi ordered more monetary and material aid. Yes?
 
solarz

solarz

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Blackstone said:
And your statement is one of the reasons why China isn't viewed kindly by her neighbors.
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Neighbors being, what, Philippines and Japan?

Go look at a map, China's total list of neighbors are:

- Russia
- India
- Kazakhstan
- Mongolia
- Pakistan
- Myanmar
- Afghanistan
- Vietnam
- Laos
- Kyrgyszstan
- Nepal
- Tajikistan
- North Korea
- South Korea
- Bhutan
- Philippines
- Indonesia
- Malaysia
- Singapore
- Thailand
- Bangladesh

North Korea is a treaty ally. Russia has close military cooperation with China. South Korea and Pakistan both have excellent diplomatic relations with China. Myanmar, Laos and Nepal are all within Beijing's sphere of influence. Aside from Philippines and Japan, all the rest (16 nations) maintain friendly to warm diplomatic relations with China, even India and Vietnam, despite their border disputes.

Like I said, you need a reality check.

By the way, ever heard about the
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