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Original Text:

Milli muharip uçak’da kullanılacak motora ilişkin soru üzerine Kotil, “Planımız 2028’de KAAN’ı Türk motoruyla uçurmak. Bunun için çalışmalarımız sürüyor. Tabii ki sertifikasyon için 1-2 yıla tekrar ihtiyacımız olur. Ancak 2030’larda Türk motoru olacak. Şu anda F110 motoru ile uçuyoruz.” şeklinde konuştu.

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English translation:

In response to a question about the engine to be used in the National Fighter Aircraft, Kotil said, "Our plan is to fly KAAN with a Turkish engine in 2028. We are continuing our work for this. Of course, we will need another 1-2 years for certification. However, by the 2030s, it will be a Turkish engine. Right now, we are flying with the F110 engine.

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Original Text:

Kotil, “Cumhurbaşkanımızın talimatı 2028 yılında 20 tane Hava Kuvvetleri'ne teslim ediyoruz. Ondan sonra sekiz tane daha yapıyoruz. Sonra bir tane daha yapıyoruz. O bir tanenin üzerinde 2028 yılında Türk motoru olacak. Onun için yapıyoruz. Türk motoru da yapılıyor. Bizim gencimiz 10 numara. İsterseniz başarırsınız” şeklinde konuştu.

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English translation:

...After that, we will produce eight more, followed by one additional aircraft. The Turkish engine will be on that single aircraft in 2028. That’s why we’re doing it. The Turkish engine is currently being developed. Our young talent is top-notch. If you set your mind to it, you can succeed.”

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Original:

Bunun yanında şirket 2029 yılına kadar yerli motorla uçacak bir prototip geliştirmeyi de planlamakta. Bu çerçevede ilk uçuş denemelerinin bir tarafında F110, diğer tarafında yerli motor bulunan bir KAAN’da yapılabilmesi şirketin ana hedeflerinden birisi.

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English Translation:

Additionally, the company plans to develop a prototype that will fly with the indigenous engine by 2029. One of the main goals of the company is to conduct the first flight tests with a KAAN, where one side is equipped with the F110 engine and the other side with the indigenous engine.

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Emphasizing the need for the national combat aircraft KAAN to be 100% indigenous for the security of our country, Kotil said, "We are also manufacturing the engine; we have to. Hopefully, by 2028-2029, we will fly KAAN with our engine. In such a crucial technology, we cannot be dependent on any other country."

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Demiroğlu:

TF-35000’s conceptual design phase is nearly complete … Ground testing is scheduled for 2026, hybrid prototype testing for 2029 and full engine integration into production aircraft in 2032.

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the Block 30 (i.e. the ultimate version) has always been intended to be equipped with the indigenous engine and delivered by 2032. The fact that Indonesian deliveries in 2032 will also officially come with Turkish engines further supports this.

CasualObserver said:

No, it's 1 battalion = 2 batteries (And they're collecting dust in hangars)

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That's is a bigger reason that they'll not let the S-400 and return it, like the imperial americans wants. That's a capability that can provide very important input in Turkiye's air defense against any Israeli aggression against turkiye, or any operation by Israel & Greece against Turkish Cyprus.

mshrief303 said:

That's is a bigger reason that they'll not let the S-400 and return it, like the imperial americans wants. That's a capability that can provide very important input in Turkiye's air defense against any Israeli aggression against turkiye, or any operation by Israel & Greece against Turkish Cyprus.

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We've seen time and again what happens to air defense systems that aren't integrated into a broader network and are forced to operate in standalone mode.

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the Block 30 (i.e. the ultimate version) has always been intended to be equipped with the indigenous engine and delivered by 2032. The fact that Indonesian deliveries in 2032 will also officially come with Turkish engines further supports this.

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yeah. latest date they given is 2032.. integration with KAAN if everything goes well.

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''Given that Turkey began developing the TF-35000 in the early 2020s, completing it by 2032 would follow a similar 10 to 12-year arc. However, as Akşit has noted, integrating all components of a modern turbofan engine is extraordinarily complex. Delays could arise from material procurement issues, extended testing phases or regulatory certification bottlenecks. Even minor issues with blade design, vibration stability or thermal performance can stall progress for years.''

this is your first attempt and this is also high thrust 35,000 lbf thrust Engine. give the complexity timeline will definitely extend. so most likely by 2035..

so my point is, KAAN definitely need an alternative Engine for initial batches if US disrupt the supply of Engines.

let see.

CasualObserver said:

We've seen time and again what happens to air defense systems that aren't integrated into a broader network and are forced to operate in standalone mode.

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I didn't say it will be used to operate in a standalone mode, even if the integration is not full but it's just integrated in a very minimal way, it'll still provide a capability that support Defensive operations.

That'll more true, if they used it asymmetrically, by hiding and turning of radars and emissions and turn them on when they get the signal by another source when certain conditions are met. Then they can turn on the radars and use ambush tactics. And that will limit enemies abilities because they've complicated their calculations as they can't be sure they'll be ambushed by an S-400 battery or not.
And that'll be helpful for other Air Defence batteries that operates symmetrically, and want to defend against enemies operations in the traditional way.

CasualObserver said:

We've seen time and again what happens to air defense systems that aren't integrated into a broader network and are forced to operate in standalone mode.

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They're the only high level system available anyway.
Siper is one tier lower, and is just born.

I.e. one way or another, Turkish position of relative weakness v. Israel and even Greece is just a thing, until ozgur can produce results at some scale.

sunnymaxi said:

this is your first attempt and this is also high thrust 35,000 lbf thrust Engine. give the complexity timeline will definitely extend. so most likely by 2035..

so my point is, KAAN definitely need an alternative Engine for initial batches if US disrupt the supply of Engines.

let see.

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It’s not the first attempt at a modern turbofan.

It may officially have been under development since the early 2020s, but TEI has actually been working on it since 2017-18.

One reason people believe in this project is Professor Aksit (the head of TEI). He’s a big pragmatist, unlike other major figures in the Turkish military industry, and he’s always tried to manage expectations. He has never been proven wrong about the dates he’s given and has always delivered on time. He rarely gives dates, so that should tell you a lot about the progress (and the pressure of progress) of the project, even the things left unsaid.

Very few Turkish projects have been as secretive as this one. For example, there was a lot of talks that the first parts of the TF35000 prototype would be shown at this year’s IDEF, but the Presidency of the Defence Industries stepped in and instructed TEI to keep everything under wraps.