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Gloire_bb said:
And?

Like, it's a demonstrator that flew how many times I forgot?
Which doesn't even look like next prototype apparently (what it verified then, possibly of creating a jet? Hurjet did that, though not impressive enough for an election indeed).

It's guaranteed that development of engines goes smoothly and won't take, say, a Chinese detour of just 20 years?
And ot isn't exactly the likeliest scenario, because China had 100x Turkish resources, had a fully established industry, endless (hungry) Russian assistance and got it solved. At no point China was at a threat of war, and Turkish borders are always a source of surprises.
Can it even outlive Erdogan, who's personally invested in this whole endeavour, but who's on his last term?

And that across the whole spectrum of risks, when you can just bow a bit deeper, pay for f-35 and it will happily fly.

Like dreams are good, but a way simpler Altay is still a tank of the future simply due to Germany saying no. For a whole decade we hear this engine almost ready.

US can say no to engines at any moment too, and you're fighting only at a speed of airfield tractor.
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Gloire_bb said:
Kaan is affordable for Turkey when it's committed, and there's no distractions.


(Btw, thanks for tagging me as just about any dude coming out of nowhere. keep track of this program since announcement and one of rather few bullish non-turkish members of this forum for this forum. But get some reality in ffs.)

Add a bit more instability to the South(oh shit), and congratulations, pricetag of even remotely active land war will dry these founds up. Or maybe west. Or east. Or north - like, imagine a bit more success from Ukrainian combat divers, and you'd be paying bills for molecules of freedom by now. Turkish borders are fun, as is reading western guys "but why Turkiye needs it".
Really. Why. I wonder too.

Even if money will be maintained for the full cycle(which realistically is decades from now), projects can fail - just because it's an engineering task, and it's only experience that gives any certainty that a beautiful presentation won't end up as a Mitsubishi spacejet.

If you're of opinion that nothing can go wrong with this program, and us-siurced distractions in multiple billions are healthy for it...well, I have a bridge to sell. Cheap.
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Y'know, I think you misunderstood me by what I said. You are actually one of the members in this forum whose opinions I respect the most but you are clearly wrong on this topic but as you are aware; we face at least many dozens of people who do come here without any prior knowledge and claim some stuff.

As I said, I've written a lot about these common arguments and you can find answers to each one of your arguments here(be it the budget, subcomponents, project timeline, aircraft specs, etc.):
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/se...c[thread]=9151&c[users]=CasualObserver&o=date

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/search/159475/?q=Kaan&c[users]=CasualObserver&o=date


I'm one of the more pragmatic Kaan enthusiasts out there so let me tell you this:

Before 2023 any one of us would've agreed with you to a large extend on the risks but you are avoiding seeing the the achievements that've been made and the counter-measures taken by people in charge.

And I don't blame you or anything just because your focus is not on following Turkish military trends, it is natural that you are not as up to date as someone who's majority of focus is on TurAF and Kaan. Therefore it is wrong of you to assert your assumptions.
 
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TB2 reached 1.000.000 flight hours!


They flew 250.000 hours in the last 12 months. That means at any moment there are at minimum around 25-30 TB2 in the air all over the world 24/7!
 
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