3 stages for the LPC and 2 turbine stages. The HPC is too blurry but according to other images we have it's 6 HPC stages. I guess this is the schematics of the Kaan engine.
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Only some small initiatives but nothing big and serious like in China(yet). Although the capability is present.
They also need to pick up the pace on FPV-class UAVs as well...
To add to all this, we've also been waiting for like half a decade for Lentatek (old name: Vestel) Defence to develop Kargi (a Harop equivalent) but it still hasn't entered service yet...
As of yet, this is the largest one of Turkish efforts...
Disappointed. Expected a colorful plastic nerf dart ejector.
At some point money will bite.
Kaan is already very ... optimistic(risky) and broad program, program at the very edge of that is likely for mid-sized power to achieve on sheer willpower.
Viable alternative here is the deadliest poison. Kaan is just too expensive to be a (hidden)middle finger to US.
Either it's a singular future of the air force without any plan B, or it will kill it better than any likely technological challenges.
There's a reason f-35 lobbyists killed any alternative to f-35 itself until it matured.
Dude, as someone who has spent a lot of time keeping a close watch on this program, I can't stop myself from laughing at these memorized arguments even when I'm being dramatically pragmatic.
They have only spent 2 billion USD until this point even though they had to massively invest in the necessary infrastructure to develop this aircraft.
Moreover, the projected lifetime cost of the whole program including building at least 250 jets for the TurAF and operational costs at least until 2070+ was projected in 2019 to cost just 20 billion USD.
When you consider the fact that you have to spend at least 10 billion USD for 20-40 brand new F-35s nowadays; this is minuscule in comparison.
Granted, cost is a major issue in any defence procurement. But repeating these overused talking points without investing the necessary time to research, to make sure that you're right about that topic is only a waste of everyone's time.
I mean, I personally am tired of repeating myself over and over again to everyone who decide to suddenly come here without prior research and say "Kaan too expensive for Turkey" .
And?
Like, it's a demonstrator that flew how many times I forgot?
Which doesn't even look like next prototype apparently (what it verified then, possibly of creating a jet? Hurjet did that, though not impressive enough for an election indeed).
It's guaranteed that development of engines goes smoothly and won't take, say, a Chinese detour of just 20 years?
And ot isn't exactly the likeliest scenario, because China had 100x Turkish resources, had a fully established industry, endless (hungry) Russian assistance and got it solved. At no point China was at a threat of war, and Turkish borders are always a source of surprises.
Can it even outlive Erdogan, who's personally invested in this whole endeavour, but who's on his last term?
And that across the whole spectrum of risks, when you can just bow a bit deeper, pay for f-35 and it will happily fly.
Like dreams are good, but a way simpler Altay is still a tank of the future simply due to Germany saying no. For a whole decade we hear this engine almost ready.
US can say no to engines at any moment too, and you're fighting only at a speed of airfield tractor.
Kaan is affordable for Turkey when it's committed, and there's no distractions.
(Btw, thanks for tagging me as just about any dude coming out of nowhere. keep track of this program since announcement and one of rather few bullish non-turkish members of this forum for this forum. But get some reality in ffs.)
Add a bit more instability to the South(oh shit), and congratulations, pricetag of even remotely active land war will dry these founds up. Or maybe west. Or east. Or north - like, imagine a bit more success from Ukrainian combat divers, and you'd be paying bills for molecules of freedom by now. Turkish borders are fun, as is reading western guys "but why Turkiye needs it".
Really. Why. I wonder too.
Even if money will be maintained for the full cycle(which realistically is decades from now), projects can fail - just because it's an engineering task, and it's only experience that gives any certainty that a beautiful presentation won't end up as a Mitsubishi spacejet.
If you're of opinion that nothing can go wrong with this program, and us-siurced distractions in multiple billions are healthy for it...well, I have a bridge to sell. Cheap.