Turkey Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Model of Chile's Leopard 2 modernization by Aselsan:
Baykar being accused of corruption and fraud (again).
Seems like some people can't get over their jealousy and resentment...
Seems like some people can't get over their jealousy and resentment...
KEMANKEŞ 2 coming soon
According to SST is has the following capabilities:
- 200+ kilometers range
- Turbojet Engine
- 1 Hour in the Air
- Artificial Intelligence Supported Optical Guidance System
- Artificial Intelligence Supported Autopilot System
- Autonomous Flight
- Resistance to Electronic Warfare
- Cost Effective
Seems like based on this one displayed in Pakistan:
According to SST is has the following capabilities:
- 200+ kilometers range
- Turbojet Engine
- 1 Hour in the Air
- Artificial Intelligence Supported Optical Guidance System
- Artificial Intelligence Supported Autopilot System
- Autonomous Flight
- Resistance to Electronic Warfare
- Cost Effective
Seems like based on this one displayed in Pakistan:
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I see that they're watching the war in the north closely... But it's still a bit weird to see a company that produces large and capable UAVs to get into the small drone/loitering munition/cruise missile business... Granted there's money in that and it's nice to see someone step up to the plate but still...
Who dares wins.
Roketsan and Tubitak-Sage should've picked these trends up but they failed horribly (not saying they aren't good in other fields).
I mean, only this year they tested Atmaca with the indigenous engine.
No sign of SOM-C/J.
No sign either of Alpagut.
Cakir isn't really innovative (apart from the swarm and EW variants).
What about the CEO of STM denying the relevance of FPV drones eventhough they displayed a whole FPV family since IDEF'19?
What about all those promises about hybrid propulsion systems and cannons etc. by MKE? (I believe Gorgun has a part in this seeing as MKE encroached Aselsan CIWS territory so he got rid of its CEO or the CEO overpromised too much. I think it's both)
And looks like Kuzgun, which was supposed to be the cheap versatile munition, has been shelved perhaps apart from the KY variant. Perhaps even the KY will be shelved too in favor of UMTAS-GM etc.
Meanwhile Baykar doesn't shy away to design rickety kamikaze drones for other countries. Just look at, it's laughable compared to their other products but it sure is effective.
Luckily the most important projects are gaining momentum such as radars, electronics, AAMs, SAMs, EO systems, aircraft and propulsion systems. But overall the Turkish defense industry lacks a bit of oversight (there are 4 CIWS designs!!!) and innovation in some parts.
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Tubitak-SAGE is Turkey's own DARPA, and they do a lot of critical, groundlaying work (like solid and liquid fuel ramjet engines for example); they also come up with a lot of promising munition and networking concepts, indigenization of existing subcomponents and also deliver products in record time but unfortunately due to Roketsan's ambition they are under a whole lot of pressurization to the point that recently a lot of critical heads rolled at SAGE. They usually do the development and testing of initial products, and hand over the serial production to Roketsan once the program reaches maturity.
They're the literal MVPs of the defence industry but unfortunately they're also hugely undervalued by the other players.
Also it's not SAGE's responsibility to come up with such stuff, it's STM's but unfortunately they're too ignorant and obstinate to miss out on what's going on over to the North.
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Kuzgun project is still under development and it hasnt been shelved, this also applies to SOM-J. Yes, they're too flashy and do a lot of publicity most of the time but they also know when to keep things tightly under wraps; as can bee seen with known critical projects.
Competition-wise, Turkish industry in general is actually a lot like the Chinese (Except they don't have the remarkable resilience of Chinese manufacturers). They love to compete against one another until one of them eventually folds.
I agree with this part, but it's going to take some time before these products reach the serial production phase. The whole Turkish military industry and armament program in general needs a 5 year breather period without significant conflicts for these projects to be realised before Turkey reaches second Tier military power status (i.e. France, SK, Japan, etc.).
AFAIK this was designed by Baykar's local branch in Pakistan; so one could say they devoted only trivial resources for its development.
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One silent project you might or might not is Akbaba for example, they literally erased its only photo (carried by a F-16) from the internet