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TF2000 latest specs. Looks like a hybrid 052D/055:

It now has 80 VLS instead of 64.

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Maybe even 96 VLS?

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CasualObserver

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Yes, 96 tubes and this is the final iteration. However seems like it went under a redesign lately because of all the recent events and thus the critical design phase is not over yet. They changed the radar arrangement (AYR is gone), removed the planned multi-purpose mission space and Atmaca launchers and increased the VLS tube count from 64 to 96.

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This is the old layout:

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Notice anything different?

Anyway, here are the thoughts of a respected naval architect on this matter:

The ship seems butterface to me, got superb first half, but rear half seems like done as a scratch. There seems a lot of things that will go through correction in the rear half. Also not very pleased with removing Nazar system on the aft. This should have been the design passed as conceptual design and now going through contract / functional design phase. I think we will see the final version somewhere in SAHA Expo.
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This indicates that the subcontractors are still working on the current design and it is going through a maturing process after the inputs from the DPO (It is possible that we have seen second iteration of the latest design) . Regardless of when the first steel cutting occurs, I don't expect construction to start on a solid ground before Q2 2025, or production design to finalize before end of 2026. This ship is now safely expected in the 2030s.


In my opinion there is still a time until we see the latest form of the current lay-out. It briefly demonstrates the features but not the details or full configuration.

A slightly older post of his about the mast:

It does not fit my logic, although I have all the respect for I. Sünnetçi.

First of all, the all-integrated mast was discarded in 2017-18, not in the latest iteration, moreover, I doubt if it was ever included in the concept, but studied among other options with distributed radars.

Then comes the horizon and surface search, this was one of the CFR's tasks, along with volume scan, fire control window, target tracking, etc. See picture below, I doubt it has changed;

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And finally, AYR was more in the form of a data link in recent thinking, not sure if they have discarded APAR guidance yet. AYR could have been used as a data link for drones, which are undoubtedly the future of any naval asset. However, I doubt that AYR will be scrapped altogether, but instead the illumination mode for SARH will be scrapped and it will remain as a data link.

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And one more thing, if UMR can do everything, why do we have CFAKR + data links in the Siper system? I do not see data links in this low resolution concept. We cannot imagine an air defence frigate destroyer without an X-band radar to search and track the nearby field, note that this ship has no Ka-Ku band tracking radars, leaving us with CFR. There will be at least 64 AA missiles in Siper-D configuration, 128 Hisar-D + 32 Siper-D at most, and you'll need data links capable of 15 simultaneous engagement windows on each side. AYR should serve this purpose. The datalink available on the I-Class cannot do this with a single unit.

It's also roomy at certain points, where they might include 2 - 3 x AKREP, and I wouldn't be surprised.

Unless we've unlocked God Mode and developed AN-SPY6, I don't think it's feasible. I want to be right this time. If we switch to a more powerful UMR then I am all for it.
 
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Soldier30

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Azerbaijan showed off its Turkish-made Bayraktar Akıncı UAVs. Azerbaijan presented the Bayraktar Akıncı UAV received from Turkey. The Bayraktar Akinci UAV was developed by Baykar and made its first flight in 2019; we previously reviewed it. The Bayraktar Akinci UAV is equipped with a variety of missiles and ammunition, examples of which you can see in the photo. On board there is an Aselsan optical-electronic station and a radar with an active phased array antenna. The UAV is equipped with 2 Ukrainian AI-450T turboprop engines with a power of 450 hp each. s., or two Turkish piston engines PD-222. The maximum speed of the UAV is up to 360 km/h, flight range up to 7500 km, at an altitude of up to 13700 meters, flight duration up to 24 hours. Akıncı UAV uses satellite communications.

 

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Our exports to date:
*770 UAVs to 50 countries
*1,200 kamikaze drones to 11 countries
*8 T129 to 2 countries
*4,500 4x4, 6x6, 8x8 armored vehicles to 40 countries
*140 military ships to 10 countries
*40 radars for 10 countries
*1,200 gun turrets to 24 countries
*Small weapons, pistols to 111 countries
Interesting figures... I wonder if the UAV count includes "Bayraktar Minis" that are operating in Ukraine, since they too are technically UAVs, or is it just for Tb-2, Karayel or above...? The same situation also applies to radars and ships as well.
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