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Africablack

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That's like saying that Japan and Europe are already finished today. Yes, they are currently stagnating, but it doesn't mean they are in any real threat of collapse. In fact, Japan has been stagnant for 50 years now, doesn't mean there will be a new Republic of Ezo anytime soon.
Japan is a diversified advanced economy, the USSR was a petrostate with no money to maintain a state, the leadership was literally begging for money, it was so bad they even had to go to tiny Singapore beg for a loan.
 

Racek49

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What pseudo history? Propaganda made people lose faith in their country? lol!
I experienced that time and followed the situation quite closely. In the USSR, values changed within a few months, everything that happened and was built was interpreted the other way around, nothing remained sacred. The country began to be ruled by liberal propagandists of the coarsest grain, mostly of Jewish origin, of course. Old management systems were abolished and new ones were introduced, built on very naive postulates. A group of liberal economists set off on a rampage, from whom they very quickly became billionaires. They quickly, lightning fast, stole everything they could. Already under Gorbachev. Under Yeltsin, the so-called, extinguished so that the theft of property would accelerate and get into the right, chosen hands. In fact, this is how the entire Eastern Bloc proceeded after the coups.
Could a person then believe in their own country, traditions and development?
 

4Tran

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Exactly, absolutely. In a democracy, the president is always the symptom, not the cause or he could not have been elected. But he's a symptom that makes the cause worse, which makes the symptom worse, and so forth until either something happens (the US realizes it's too sick to compete with China and focuses on healing and mellowing out) or the whole system will go to hell and crash. I still think the US has a good buffer zone to do the former and prevent the latter.
Americans will never admit that they are wrong. Especially in this case because what's wrong is the very idea of the United States. They would blame everyone under the sun and shatter as a society before that happens.

The next American president will be far more anti-China than Trump but nothing they do will work because nobody is interested in the real problems.
 

Michael90

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China was invaded because we were too weak to defend ourselves. The US is never going to be too weak to defend against little European shits, and Japan, etc... Unless the US is beaten in WWIII into a third world nation, which is not going to happen because they have nukes, America is still going to be the world's second strongest nation.
Yes I think puss in the boots (like many people who don’t like the US) went about too far with the exaggeration of the US downfall .lol Nothing as such is happening in this lifetime .
 

TK3600

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Yes I think puss in the boots (like many people who don’t like the US) went about too far with the exaggeration of the US downfall .lol Nothing as such is happening in this lifetime .
Depends on how old you are. If you are in your late 40s you might be right. If you are like me who is not even 30, I could live another 70 year, that is a lot of time. 70 year is the time between creation of Soviet Union, it rolling over Europe, to its dismemberment.

70 years is the time between Qing emperor looked down to west, closed its border, to eight nation alliance burning Beijing.
 

Michael90

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Depends on how old you are. If you are in your late 40s you might be right. If you are like me who is not even 30, I could live another 70 year, that is a lot of time. 70 year is the time between creation of Soviet Union, it rolling over Europe, to its dismemberment.

70 years is the time between Qing emperor looked down to west, closed its border, to eight nation alliance burning Beijing.
Ahahaha…….well, I don’t just like using the term NEVER(since nothing is absolute in life) , so I tend to be conservative in my predictions. So if I had to be frank I will say the probability is so low to almost insignificant to non existant. I think 98% of countries around the world have a higher probability to seizing to exist as a country we know today than the US let’s just put it like that . LMAO
I just find it funny that when people don’t like a country, they seem to bring out all their wishful thinking and project is into reality . lol. Abit similar to those who predict a collapse of China as well( could happen , since as I said nothing is impossible , but probability is so low to non existent ). The more I travel and the more I interact with different people around the world the more I have come to understand that humans are so similar in many ways/traits.
 

AssassinsMace

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I don't know if this came from the Iranians. They're very in tune with American culture if so.

I don't think it's like the Trump haters are saying. It's just simply Xi probably told Trump you get nothing you want without China getting something in return. All of them are pushing Trump to okay the Taiwan arms deal while they demand China not militarily aid Iran. Apparently China just wanted Trump to say it in just words regarding Taiwan. And the next President doesn't have to follow Trump just like Trump didn't have follow any President before him. What a grand bargain for the US and they didn't take it. The greatest gift to the world is Iran showing how to get it done against the West. I don't give a damn if the Western world feels insecure that their mighty protector is showing they're mortal. Look at how Europe has to save face after Trump's trip to Beijing. They have to double down on acting tough. Like I said in a previous post that the Western world that thought they were supermen hiding behind the US, now all of the sudden think they're Iran and China is the US. No you're Israel with all that expensive Western technology available to you and watching it fail. And why did it fail? They accuse China... So where in that equation do they come to the conclusion that they're the Iran to China's US? It's like they also thought US farmers could just sell their soybeans to other Asian countries... Why? Because Orientals are all alike. Just like because Japan's economy was in an aimless funk at the turn of the century, China has to go through the same because... they're both Asian. And of course the Europeans still think they're mighty because the US is mighty because they're both white. China didn't have to tell its people it's all right to eat moldy food to prevent starvation. Look at how Europe demanded Arab Gulf states contribute to help Ukraine. Yeah you guys are in the pole position of the world... They still think the world looks up at them with awe.
 

Puss in Boots

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Ahahaha…….well, I don’t just like using the term NEVER(since nothing is absolute in life) , so I tend to be conservative in my predictions. So if I had to be frank I will say the probability is so low to almost insignificant to non existant. I think 98% of countries around the world have a higher probability to seizing to exist as a country we know today than the US let’s just put it like that . LMAO
I just find it funny that when people don’t like a country, they seem to bring out all their wishful thinking and project is into reality . lol. Abit similar to those who predict a collapse of China as well( could happen , since as I said nothing is impossible , but probability is so low to non existent ). The more I travel and the more I interact with different people around the world the more I have come to understand that humans are so similar in many ways/traits.
I've said before that some people will think I'm cursing America.
Comparing my arguments to those who simply say "China's terrible demographic structure will lead to collapse" is somewhat inappropriate. My observations of America's internal contradictions are based on my understanding of the symptoms of the end of all Chinese dynasties. These experiences are, of course, not absolutely accurate, and America may find its own path to solve these problems, but so far, America is precisely on this path. Those predictions that demographic problems will lead to China's decline still lack any comparable examples.
Many people like to use "we're all the same" as a fallacy when refuting an argument, but this is not convincing. You should directly point out the errors in my arguments to refute my conclusions.
 
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