Trump 2.0 official thread
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Why not send internet trolls, especially those MAGA guys, who keep praising Trump & US is winning on X, to these factories? I'm finding they're too energetic online. Factories needs their energy.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
No one should be surprised that Trump is lying about everything that is happening. That has been literally his method of operation. And what's embarrassing is the Western media buys it every time.
Let's be ambitious and aim for 40,000 years.
He even has a golden toilet. At this point the jokes write themselves.
All the steps taken to declare Trump the God emperor.
Make sense if that is the goal.
I would agree with all rest of the points except this one, The biggest welfare beneficiaries in US are the rich elite and corps, not regular poor people, the myth of the 'poor black/minority' welfare recipient eating lobsters and not doing jobs is just that.
I am sure there are folk who scam the system but that scale is hella small
The last time I read in november i think about welders and their retention rates the issue also was that they were paying them less money than service industry, why would they work? Shipyards dont want to pay them good high wages,
Wages is the number 1 problem for various job issues in US, hospital are having nurse shortages but they dont hire with good wage and rather spend the money on corporate incentive packages.
Companies intentionally scam the h1b system and dont even look for workers in US, they just do the duty of posting about job, claiming didnt find one and then import one from outside on a lesser wage and knowing that worker cant escape them
Idk if they 'buy it' , more that they are complicit and support it, when the venezuela thing was fresh not a single source was saying 'invasion' 'kidnapping' 'illegal attack' they were all walking on eggshells waiting to be given the narrative script to run
Which one, the one from Dune or 40k, I ask because one became a big slug other well...he eradicated the institution of the church first
Doesn't matter whatever is declared, the man is 79 years old.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Rather than get distracted with the wealth re-distribution mechanics, I think it’s maybe more relevant to instead look at the underlying societal value systems in terms of what societies value and reward in terms of individual behaviour, and how that reward system shapes the attitudes of the people.
In America, Greed is good, laziness is lauded and honest hard work is looked down upon. That’s a toxic combination where people are now trained to think that hyper-concentrate of wealth is desirable and that doing hard honest work is for losers. I mean, this mindset is so prevalent that it’s even being normalised by children in games where people who grind to progress are demeaned as ‘sweats’ and the community have been trained to worship pay-to-win-whales who pay real money for overwhelming advantages in game and cheating is endemic. If that’s the attitude towards leisure, it’s not hard to see how bad it can be in the corporate world.
The way I see it is that the west never really got rid of its aristocracy and it’s functionally still largely a medieval society where the blueblood ‘betters’ rules over the commoners. Some concessions have been made to allow a select few upwards mobility to join the monied ruling elite, which is how the west maintains its social order. The commoners don’t rage and fight against this inherently unjust system because they have been bribed by the illusion of hope that it could be them that gets selected to be elevated. So rather than try to change the system to be fairer to the overwhelming majority, everyone dreams about climbing to the top to lord over and shit on everyone else below them. There are many such routes, either literal lotteries or self-made, but the overwhelming majority of such lucky tickets can be obtained by getting into one of the top 0.1% paying elite jobs.
In the past, the problem was mainly on the corporate side where the big money was in Wall Street, which is where many of the top engineers and scientists ended up instead of in those technical fields that they trained in and demonstrated great talent in. But you still have all that raw talent coming through your educational pipeline, so in theory it was a relatively easy and achievable fix by changing the job market rewards structure.
Today and in the future, that problem is going to be confounded by the broader societal corruption where the top jobs children aspire to when they grow up in the west are now Streamers/Online content creators. With the hostile environment the west is creating for foreigners, especially Chinese and other coloureds, you are going to have a double whammy impact of a drying up of foreign talent import at the same time as your own domestic talent would rather stream themselves playing games and doing lewd acts for their OnlyFans pages than actually study to even get into university to start with.
This broader societal corruption is the true nation killer, because of how impossibly hard it would be to get the whole society to collectively take the pain necessary to fundamentally change course. Historically, such wholesale societal perversion have only been corrected by either revolution or foreign invasion, or a combination of both. No system that got itself into such deep shit have ever managed to successfully dig itself out of it again. America might think it can be the first, but the odds are very much not in their favour.
In America, Greed is good, laziness is lauded and honest hard work is looked down upon. That’s a toxic combination where people are now trained to think that hyper-concentrate of wealth is desirable and that doing hard honest work is for losers. I mean, this mindset is so prevalent that it’s even being normalised by children in games where people who grind to progress are demeaned as ‘sweats’ and the community have been trained to worship pay-to-win-whales who pay real money for overwhelming advantages in game and cheating is endemic. If that’s the attitude towards leisure, it’s not hard to see how bad it can be in the corporate world.
The way I see it is that the west never really got rid of its aristocracy and it’s functionally still largely a medieval society where the blueblood ‘betters’ rules over the commoners. Some concessions have been made to allow a select few upwards mobility to join the monied ruling elite, which is how the west maintains its social order. The commoners don’t rage and fight against this inherently unjust system because they have been bribed by the illusion of hope that it could be them that gets selected to be elevated. So rather than try to change the system to be fairer to the overwhelming majority, everyone dreams about climbing to the top to lord over and shit on everyone else below them. There are many such routes, either literal lotteries or self-made, but the overwhelming majority of such lucky tickets can be obtained by getting into one of the top 0.1% paying elite jobs.
In the past, the problem was mainly on the corporate side where the big money was in Wall Street, which is where many of the top engineers and scientists ended up instead of in those technical fields that they trained in and demonstrated great talent in. But you still have all that raw talent coming through your educational pipeline, so in theory it was a relatively easy and achievable fix by changing the job market rewards structure.
Today and in the future, that problem is going to be confounded by the broader societal corruption where the top jobs children aspire to when they grow up in the west are now Streamers/Online content creators. With the hostile environment the west is creating for foreigners, especially Chinese and other coloureds, you are going to have a double whammy impact of a drying up of foreign talent import at the same time as your own domestic talent would rather stream themselves playing games and doing lewd acts for their OnlyFans pages than actually study to even get into university to start with.
This broader societal corruption is the true nation killer, because of how impossibly hard it would be to get the whole society to collectively take the pain necessary to fundamentally change course. Historically, such wholesale societal perversion have only been corrected by either revolution or foreign invasion, or a combination of both. No system that got itself into such deep shit have ever managed to successfully dig itself out of it again. America might think it can be the first, but the odds are very much not in their favour.
This hits the nail on the head. The issue isn’t as clear cut as traditional socialists make it out to be because current neoliberal society values story telling much more than actual concrete achievements. This allowed a class of scammers to elevate themselves above the rest and drive the socio-political policies.