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RedMetalSeadramon

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TLDR: they sent Seals to North Korea on some mission and were discovered by civilians fishing for clams in the bay. To cover their tracks they killed a whole boat of civilians and dumped the bodies in the bay.
Friday news release to kill the story too. Disgusting animals.

The free summery completely obstructed that they were just shellfish divers.
A Nighttime Raid

An investigation details a previously undisclosed U.S. operation to intercept the North Korean leader’s communications.

A composite image of military equipment and machines and Kim Jong-un.
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Sept. 5, 2025, 6:31 a.m. ET

Today, we bring you inside a secret military operation the United States conducted against North Korea during the first Trump administration.

The story begins with an intelligence problem: It was hard to know what was happening inside North Korea. American spies found it difficult to recruit human sources, and information rarely leaked out. But policymakers in Washington wanted to understand more about Kim Jong-un, the country’s unpredictable leader, ahead of a meeting with Trump. Here is part of the investigation, published today in The Times, into the operation they devised.
Dave Philipps

By Dave Philipps

I’ve covered the military for 15 years. I reported this story alongside veteran military reporter Matthew Cole.

A group of Navy SEALs emerged from the ink black ocean on a winter night in early 2019 and crept to a rocky shore in North Korea. They were on a top secret mission so complex and consequential that everything had to go exactly right.

The objective was to plant an electronic device that would let the United States intercept Kim Jong-un’s communications amid high-level nuclear talks with President Trump.

The mission had the potential to provide the United States a stream of valuable intelligence. But it meant putting American commandos on North Korean soil — a move that, if detected, could not only sink negotiations, but could also lead to a hostage crisis or an escalating conflict with a nuclear-armed foe. It was so risky that it required the president’s direct approval.

For the operation, the military chose SEAL Team 6’s Red Squadron — the same unit that killed Osama Bin Laden. SEALs who were more used to quick raids in places like Afghanistan and Iraq would have to survive for hours in frigid seas, slip past security forces on land and perform a precise technical installation. The SEALs rehearsed for months, aware that every move needed to be perfect.

Yet the team faced a serious limitation: It would be going in almost blind. Typically, Special Operations forces have drones overhead during a mission, streaming high-definition video of the target. Often, they can even listen in on enemy communications. In North Korea, though, any drone would be spotted. So the mission would have to rely on satellites and high-altitude spy planes that could provide only low-definition still images after a lag of several minutes.

So they spent months watching how people came and went in the area. They studied fishing patterns and chose a time when boat traffic would be minimal. The intelligence suggested that if SEALs arrived silently in the right location in the dead of a winter night, they would be unlikely to encounter anyone.

But when they reached what they thought was a deserted shore that night, wearing black wet suits and night-vision goggles, the mission swiftly unraveled. A North Korean boat appeared out of the dark. Flashlights from the bow swept over the water. Fearing that they had been spotted, the SEALs opened fire. Within seconds, everyone on the North Korean boat was dead.
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Read the story to find out what happened next. The details remain classified and are being reported here for the first time. The Trump administration did not inform key members of Congress who oversee intelligence operations, before or after the mission.

The Times is disclosing it to provide the public with a fuller understanding of the risks taken by the first Trump administration during a critical period of diplomacy toward North Korea — and to provide greater transparency about the elite and secretive commando forces in U.S. Special Operations.

They deliberately avoided saying they were civilians in both the headline, and wait until 4/5 of the article before they mention they were just innocent shell divers. Killed them and hid their bodies.

The shore team swam to the boat to make sure that all of the North Koreans were dead. They found no guns or uniforms. Evidence suggested that the crew, which people briefed on the mission said numbered two or three people, had been civilians diving for shellfish. All were dead, including the man in the water.

Officials familiar with the mission said the SEALs pulled the bodies into the water to hide them from the North Korean authorities. One added that the SEALs punctured the boat crew’s lungs with knives to make sure their bodies would sink.

Many of the people involved in the mission were later promoted.

Of course they were.
 
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He is completely nuts even pre-Covid.
Come on dude, this type of misskond have been done for decaded by almost every major great power to this day. The resdon yoj here about this one is that there are insiders who decided to leak this one(like few others before) for personal/political reasons. You havent heard about other coubtried fo because they are more secretive. Do ñets stop blaming everything on Trump alone.
 

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Crackdown on South Korean illegals continues... MAGA!

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Lol How can large corporations like Hyaundai and LG be making use of illegal korean workers in their plants in US? As large multinational companied they should have been aware of the rules and hsve at least some form of moral responsibility since the reputstionsl risks are not worth it. So i see nothing wrong in this illegsld being apprehended . I'm sure neither Korea or Chins/Japan etc knowingly allow illegals to work in their largest companies.
 

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Does China have similar mini-subs? How does China counter such covert actions? The whole incident sounds like something from a Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie.
Lol who will china carry out such operations against? Moroever, China has a non interventionist policy which they rightly abide to. By contrast other powers like Tthe US,RUSSIA, UK, France, snd even regional ones like Iran,Turkey, etc etc don't have such policies so you are likely to find such clandestine operations involving this countries, though might hardly here about it.
Its good that china since Mao's death adopted a policy of non intervention and non involvement in other countries, it helps mitigate the risks of failures and consequences that might follow. Its better to avoid such intanglements and focus on economic/industrial development like China has been doing.
 

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Come on dude, this type of misskond have been done for decaded by almost every major great power to this day. The resdon yoj here about this one is that there are insiders who decided to leak this one(like few others before) for personal/political reasons. You havent heard about other coubtried fo because they are more secretive. Do ñets stop blaming everything on Trump alone.
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Infiltration

On January 16, 1968, Unit 124 left their garrison at Yonsan. On January 17, 1968, at 23:00, they infiltrated the DMZ by cutting through the fencing of the U.S. Army's 2nd Infantry Division's sector. By 02:00 the next day they had set up camp at Morae-dong and Seokpo-ri. On January 19, at 05:00, after having crossed the Imjin River, they set up camp on Simbong Mountain.

At 14:00, four brothers named Woo from Beopwon-ri were out cutting firewood and stumbled across the unit's camp. After a fierce debate over whether to kill the brothers, it was decided instead to try to indoctrinate them on the benefits of communism and they were released with a stern warning not to notify the police. However, the brothers immediately reported the presence of the unit to the Changhyeon police station in Beopwon-ri.[4]

The unit broke camp and increased their pace to more than 10 km/h (6 mph), carrying 30 kg (70 lb) of equipment each, crossing Nogo Mountain and arriving at Bibong Mountain on January 20 at 07:00. Three battalions from the South Korean 25th Infantry Division began searching Nogo Mountain for the infiltrators, but they had already left the area. By then the commandos in the unit realized that the Park Administration had been notified of their infiltration in the South and changed their tactics accordingly. The unit entered Seoul in two- and three-man cells on the night of January 20 and regrouped at the Seungga-sa Temple, where they made their final preparations for the attack.

Never doubt the moral superiority of revolutionaries to the imperalists.
 

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The story sounds like bullshit. It’s like they they took bits from things you’ve heard of before to get ideas from and added them together to make a story. Anybody remember those mysterious boats off Japan where they found dead North Korean fishermen on them. Mini-subs to sneak in Navy Seals? Ever play Call of Duty? There was a scenario just like that. Ever hear before of stabbing the lungs of bodies so they don’t float in the water? Yeah if you watched the crime drama True Detective that was a way someone got rid of bodies in the water so they don’t float. Oh yeah… secret mission. They can reveal it because it wasn’t true. They’re admitting to an act of war where they accidentally committed murder of civilians instead. If the North Koreans makes fuss about it, they can just deny it happened because it’s the stuff of Hollywood. How convenient. It’s like the Chinese embassy bombing. A lot of Americans would rather admit it was intentional to cover-up that the perfect US could made a mistake. Are the North Koreans going to start a war over something that never happened? Wouldn’t you rather place this secret technology “close” to gather communications instead of figuring out some nowhere place they can slip some tall Caucasians into. If their technology didn’t need to be placed close, then why couldn’t they just place it across the border in South Korea where it would be safer? And all this just so Trump could get intel advantage of what for his meeting with Kim Jong Un for high-level nuclear talks in Hanoi that went nowhere? Shouldn't the Navy Seals have placed this equipment in Vietnam? Trump advisor Stephen Miller was responsible for information that was given out mentioning fictional equipment that was from Call of Duty. How hard is it for someone like that to dream up a fictional scenario like this? All for what? So the US can look cool?
 

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Is he saving remittance tariff last?

H1-B reform. Maybe cap number of visas per country so India gets especially ***ked.
Think India takes like 60%?

More likely, they'll try and find loopholes to close off H1-B eligibility, something they can do it immediately.
Something like recalculating the minimum salary needed might work to make H1-Bs completely uneconomical for the majority of tech jobs.
 
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