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[SlothmanAllen]

All of the actions of the Trump regime seems like proto-fascist tactics to me.

Federalize the police and deploy the National Guard to your nations Capital over a fabricated emergency? Sounds right out of the fascist playbook.

Remember January 6th? Now Trump will have full control of local police and military forces beforehand. This is all clearly leading to one thing; installation of an authoritarian regime and then of Democracy in the US as it has been known since the nation was founded.

The Republican party has been completely captured by radical elements and is no longer behaving in any way shape or form within the norms of a Democracy. Just look at Texas and the redistricting firestorm they kicked off, or go back to abortion and "States rights". These people are trying to enforce their will and world view on the rest of their countrymen, the law and procedure be damned.

I'll let this old George Carlin clip that has been making the rounds lately speak to some of my feelings regarding the current US situation:

 

[AlexYe]

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Both Chinese tariffs and tiktok sale
>Hit renew 90 day subscription automatically for 3 years.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Both Chinese tariffs and tiktok sale
>Hit renew 90 day subscription automatically for 3 years.

China should hike the subscription fees significantly by adding an export tariff.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

All of the actions of the Trump regime seems like proto-fascist tactics to me.

Federalize the police and deploy the National Guard to your nations Capital over a fabricated emergency? Sounds right out of the fascist playbook.

Remember January 6th? Now Trump will have full control of local police and military forces beforehand. This is all clearly leading to one thing; installation of an authoritarian regime and then of Democracy in the US as it has been known since the nation was founded.

The Republican party has been completely captured by radical elements and is no longer behaving in any way shape or form within the norms of a Democracy. Just look at Texas and the redistricting firestorm they kicked off, or go back to abortion and "States rights". These people are trying to enforce their will and world view on the rest of their countrymen, the law and procedure be damned.

I'll let this old George Carlin clip that has been making the rounds lately speak to some of my feelings regarding the current US situation:

There is a huge difference between the mindset of the Americans and a proper fascist state like Germany or current day India/Israel. You need an extremely radicalized population that is driven by hatred and resentment so that they ignore all norms and only care about aggressive action. Once you have that, then Fascist government can ignore the opposition and do whatever they want cause its so popular.

Trump is doing some radical stuff no doubt. But I doubt its that popular. There is a huge and directed opposition against trump so he can't do much.

 

[siegecrossbow]

All of the actions of the Trump regime seems like proto-fascist tactics to me.

Federalize the police and deploy the National Guard to your nations Capital over a fabricated emergency? Sounds right out of the fascist playbook.

Remember January 6th? Now Trump will have full control of local police and military forces beforehand. This is all clearly leading to one thing; installation of an authoritarian regime and then of Democracy in the US as it has been known since the nation was founded.

The Republican party has been completely captured by radical elements and is no longer behaving in any way shape or form within the norms of a Democracy. Just look at Texas and the redistricting firestorm they kicked off, or go back to abortion and "States rights". These people are trying to enforce their will and world view on the rest of their countrymen, the law and procedure be damned.

I'll let this old George Carlin clip that has been making the rounds lately speak to some of my feelings regarding the current US situation:

Wonder when he’ll be executing Order 69… If Pelosi knows what’s good for her she should make a speedy exit Mon Mothma style.

 

[Wrought]

After allowing H20 sales (for a fee), Trump is speaking with Nvidia about more exports in the same mold.

Trump opens door to Nvidia selling advanced chips to China for a fee​

The H20 is based on Nvidia’s older Hopper architecture but Trump on Monday said that he planned to discuss a new deal with Huang to allow it to sell chips to China based on its latest Blackwell platform.

The president said these chips would be “enhanced in a negative way”, comparing the potential sales to the way the US sells downgraded versions of its most advanced fighter jets. “It’s possible I’d make a deal,” the president said during a press conference. He described the H20 as “an old chip that China already has”.

“On the Blackwell, I think he [Huang] is coming to see me again about that,” he added.

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[tamsen_ikard]

After allowing H20 sales (for a fee), Trump is speaking with Nvidia about more exports in the same mold.

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Now that Huawei chips are comparable to H20, they all of a sudden allowing H20 sale to go through. I think the same will happen with EUV. When China has its own EUV machines, all of a sudden US will allow ASML to sell EUV to China.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

There is a huge difference between the mindset of the Americans and a proper fascist state like Germany or current day India/Israel. You need an extremely radicalized population that is driven by hatred and resentment so that they ignore all norms and only care about aggressive action. Once you have that, then Fascist government can ignore the opposition and do whatever they want cause its so popular.

Trump is doing some radical stuff no doubt. But I doubt its that popular. There is a huge and directed opposition against trump so he can't do much.

The German population prior to WW2 was not any more radicalized than the US population today. Only a minority of the population supported military conquest, and an even smaller minority supported the Nazi party's eugenics and racial policies. Most simply supported the party only because they believed the Nazi's can deliver on job creation, economic prosperity, and labor rights.

The difference between the German pre-war population and the US population today is that the German population was far more united, hard working, educated, and nationalistic/patriotic.

 

[4Tran]

Not all Americans are particularly political, and those who are tend to be too occupied with bread and butter domestic issues to have any reasonable understanding of great power competition: not to be dismissive of or to denigrate Americans, but most aren't even familiar with the terminology.

You can't reasonably expect the overwhelming majority of Americans — including most elites — to have the interest or attention span to follow what the mandarins governing Beijing are saying, never mind the contextual knowledge for reasonably grasping what the downstream effects will be. Keep in mind that most of our "ruling elites" aren't exactly intellectuals, even if they're compelling enough to get elected.

There are obviously some informed elites in the US when it comes to China; but that absolutely does not mean their voices are heard, assuming they're even able to speak with candor, except anonymously. LOL.

This is in part why it's so easy to vilify countries like China and Russia in the West: domestic audiences on average enjoy limited, if not skewed understandings of "the competition" mostly informed by crude gists and misleading caricatures dished out by entrenched media and established elites.

Not looking to oversimplify in excess, but for the sake of discussion: if there's anything impeding better American policies and responses vis-a-vis the rise of Pax Sinica, it's a lack of political will — rather than stupidity — heavily rooted in the structural misalignments you alluded to.

You would think that at least some of what China says would figure into the plans the Americans come up with, but no, it basically never comes up! Instead, the most we get is stuff some thinktank makes up and attributes to Xi Jinping. Look at all the pontificating about whether or not China would attack Taiwan - it's a never ending stream of stuff coming from the US government, news organizations, and NGOs. But none of them ever bring up that China has said, quite clearly, what their red lines are. Sure, an American organization might disbelieve what China says, but it's incredibly incompetent to not ever bring up what those statements are.

The German population prior to WW2 was not any more radicalized than the US population today. Only a minority of the population supported military conquest, and an even smaller minority supported the Nazi party's eugenics and racial policies. Most simply supported the party only because they believed the Nazi's can deliver on job creation, economic prosperity, and labor rights.

The difference between the German pre-war population and the US population today is that the German population was far more united, hard working, educated, and nationalistic/patriotic.

Those Germans had also lived through the Great Depression. Modern Americans haven't faced such hardships.

 

[AlexYe]

There is a huge difference between the mindset of the Americans and a proper fascist state like Germany or current day India/Israel. You need an extremely radicalized population that is driven by hatred and resentment so that they ignore all norms and only care about aggressive action. Once you have that, then Fascist government can ignore the opposition and do whatever they want cause its so popular.

Trump is doing some radical stuff no doubt. But I doubt its that popular. There is a huge and directed opposition against trump so he can't do much.

I feel like that type of fascists government type of thing cant really happen in america in current times, but it be pseudo fascistic,
rig more election maps, remove more people from voter rolls , essentially tilt the favour to gop so much that they keep winning. Meanwhile lots of corruption and institution weakening normalized (even the supreme court is gone essentially) but they havnt pulled the plug on judiciary completely, there are lines still.
Trump feels more like caesar(to pave the way) so there might be an augustus later that will 'finish' the job. Or the pendulum might finally swing back..?

If Pelosi knows

We all know Pelosi will become a 'collaborator' instead