Trump 2.0 official thread

[horse]

The kind of disproportionate and asymmetrical responses, from export control on obscure but critical materials, to investment bans in specialized industries, to precision sanctions on critical supply chains, these aren't high profile theatrics designed for headlines, these are all designed to do maximal damage to American industry while hiding behind technical barriers that will prompt minimal defence from America's tech illiterate leaders.

I got a slightly different take on that.

The CCP, through its rare earths ban just announced, applied on everyone, is preparing for war. Not having the stuff to make those weapons should give the other side pause.

 

[Cygnus]

All they have to do is bar China from the SWIFT network.

They did not dare to even do that to Huawei during the US government versus Huawei 5G war during Trump 1.0 years ago.

There is a lot of disinformation, because this is not going according to plan.

Trump boast every nation is kissing his ass, when this probably was all about China, China, China, Chyna!

Doesn't this feel like some sort of weird game show we are forced to watch?

There isn't one single voice of reason amongst members of His cabinet. Trump is surrounded by yes men. So always expect the unexpected and the worse. He is akin to Dennis the Menace.

 

[zyklon]

Trump is worse than my ex-girlfriend at giving mixed signals.

Some people, especially "emotionally expressive" women and narcissistic buffoons, just need to be told how to feel and what to do to be functional human beings . . .

 

[horse]

Awwww, this is his version of telling China to read between the lines; he can't say it in a more obvious way because he doesn't want to be lynched by a redneck crowd descending on the white house (again) but anyone with an IQ that is within 2 standard deviations of the norm can see that he wants to make a deal badly so he's asking China to please call him. This is already pathetic backtracking! Just 2 days ago, he said there would be no talks with China unless China drops the 34% tariffs! What, now talking's free?? What about Vietnam? They offered to suck every homeless dick in Detroit just to talk and Ron Vara says that's not enough??

Exactly, that is what I keep on saying, Xi with the same counter tariff of 34% has boxed in mister Trump.

During Trump 1.0 he raised tariffs against China.

What happened next was the supply chains branched out from China but China was still the center of it, so Trump 1.0 actually allowed China to be more economically powerful.

Vietnam took full advantage of that situation, as orders were rerouted through them.

Now with Trump 2.0 he raises tariffs on everyone but China gets slapped with a larger rate. This situation is no different than Trump 1.0 and the reason for this round of tariffs in Trump 2.0 is that they were unsatisfied with the results of Trump 1.0.

David Goldman of AsiaTimes.com been saying for years that America imports capital goods from China, and capital goods are goods that make other goods. Therefore, any re-industrialization in America, will cost a lot more now.

So the results of Trump 2.0 tariffs seem to be rather clear.

1. re-industrialization of America will cost more, if it actually happens, and if it does happen those products would be uncompetitive outside in world market

2. inflation and slower growth are the short term result

3. China's economy is expected to grow slightly slower, but the government CCP saved its ammo so they got a lot of fiscal or monetary levers they can pull

4. the world supply chain will still be centered in China for years and years to come

The Trump 2.0 tariffs did not change anything important, we have teh same situation from Trump 1.0 just more tariffs.

Some changes would be more inflation in the US and other countries kissing Trump's ass making a new highlight in world politics.

Trump has to stop this silliness, otherwise he could cause financial crisis.

This trade war, Trump 2.0 has nothing to show for it, other than more inflation and lipstick on his ass.

That is why the Chinese do not want to talk. What for?

He played, he did not exactly win. There is nothing else.

 

[zyklon]

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This is a statement of untruthful, arrogant, insane, hypocritical, hysterical, hegemonic, imperialistic.
Wish I could unsee this crap.

This is not at all unreasonable, and might even be a good idea!

During the American Revolutionary War, a popular rallying cry among American separatists fighting against the British was: "no taxation without representation!"

Therefore per unimpeachable traditional American logic, if countries like China, Brazil and Germany are to directly pay for the provisioning of "global goods" by the United States, as if it was some sort of de facto global government, then surely they would and should be entitled to dispatch Congressional delegations to both the House and Senate, as well as appoint electors to the electoral college for presidential elections!

 

[Ringsword]

China has 100s of economic experts rising thru the ranks to help set policies for the party, meanwhile

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909624701582033346

So.in addition to sociopathic malignant narcissusism(Trump),sociopathic narcissustic ADHD/Aspergers(Musk),we now have a schizophrenic/Multiple Personality Disorder(Navarro) in the top levels of USgovernment??Globally we are fucked

 

[horse]

 

[Ringsword]

Basically their entire plan rest on other countries making a "deal", i.e. they pull off successful robbery, and they entirely discount the possibility the other guy has a shotgun and will shoot them in the face.

In other news, US 10 year bond yield just went up 30 basis point in 12 hours, lol

That is why Trump is so frustrated and mad-despite all this abuse,Xi has not desperately called him and beg his graciousness and a "good deal".This psychopathy also explains all his failed marriages/girlfriends/whores-even a smart,lovely,good woman like his late first wife Ivana has said ,"try living with him 24 hrs a day"-it was no compliment.

 

[Cygnus]

So.in addition to sociopathic malignant narcissusism(Trump),sociopathic narcissustic ADHD/Aspergers(Musk),we now have a schizophrenic/Multiple Personality Disorder(Navarro) in the top levels of USgovernment??Globally we are fucked

Which makes them extremely dangerous, because they can start a war at a whim and destroy a Nation based on lies. Oh wait! I hope Trump's access to the nukes has been neutered or maybe not. I wouldn't be surprise if they think there is a winner when it comes to Mutually Assured Destruction.

 

[Ringsword]

Let's see if Jensen Huang actually has a spine. I have my doubts. My friends referred to Taiwanese-Americans as 'Super Passive Asian Males', or SPAM, so I rather doubt Jensen Huang got the guts to defy his white superiors.

I thought these proud Taiwaners were mostly self-claimed Japanese ?where is the super tough samurai,bushido,warrior spirit so often manga'd and anime'd,movie'd -now basically-spiced ham-pork bits" SPAM?I have several cans of it in my store room and now I can't eat it -like in spam fried rice -without thinking of SPAM Taiwan/Taiwanese whose apparent aggression is only manifested against their brothers in ML China.