Trump 2.0 official thread

iewgnem

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Considering Trump's general and historical appetite for risk, as well as his triumphant return to the White House despite multiple indictments that almost sent him to prison, and having fairly recently survived an assassination attempt where he was literally within an inch or so of losing his life, Trump is most likely currently of the belief that he has been "chosen by God."

Trump might be cognizant of the risks, but they're definitely being downplayed, if not largely ignored inside his head.

So Trump likely believes the costs will be minimal.
God works in mysterious ways, but there are clues, for example Jesus was a Palestinian Communist.
 

siegecrossbow

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After the Tiktok refugees came to XHS, Chinese people unironically respect Americans and America more. Chinese people think Americans are super hardworking and resilient people.

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If they can do that shit to their own people, just imagine what they could do to you! Checkmate Tankies!
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Let me guess how Trump wants 50% military spending reduction from the US, Russia, and China. There's already stories out how Trump is "planning" to reduce spending for the US which he's actually not. They say he's just moving money around not reducing spending at all. But for China he'll go by the US estimate of what China is really spending which has been in the news and thinks how he can do this to China. They say China is actually spending double what is the official number. So 50% is for China is what the US says China is spending which means China will have no money for the military every year while Trump will manipulate and lie how the US is reducing military spending. It's good that China already outright rejected the proposal.
 

coolgod

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If they can do that shit to their own people, just imagine what they could do to you! Checkmate Tankies!

Yea, after the Tiktok refugee came to XHS the running joke on Cnet now about a potential Chinese vs US war is

在我们没有飞机大炮的时候,我们只能靠钢铁般的意志;现在我们别说有飞机大炮,连钢铁都有意志了,却发现美国人还真有钢铁般的意志…
"Back when we had no planes or artillery, we relied on iron-willed resolve. Now, we not only possess planes and artillery—even our steel has gained a will of its own—only to realize the Americans, too, truly embody that iron-clad determination…"
 
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Franklin

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Donald Trump will be the Mikhail Gorbachev of the United States.

Both came to power on a wave of popular discontent were a majority of the people are saying that "we cannot continue like this any longer and we need change" in the Soviet Union back then and in the United States now.

Both have brought radical changes but also fail to adress the underlying problems of the countries.

In the case of the USSR it was that the planned economy wasn't working the Soviet bureaucrats were always behind the curve of the markets. This created a situation of mass misallocation of resources and shotages of some items while overproducing others. And the problems has been further exacerbated by the arms race during the Cold War.

In the case of the United States is that the economy is increasingly dependent on the wealth effect created by asset price inflation like real estate, stocks, bonds and cryptos. This is creating mass misallocation of resources were the money used to support these assets are not going to things like infrastructure and industry. The asset bubbles in the economy are eating up the middle class, the infrastructure and industry. It is creating more debt, higher inflation, higher interest rates and lower productivity. The trade wars are also making things worse for the economy.

Donald Trump's calling for lower rates, weaker dollar, lower taxes for the corporations and the rich and more deregulation in the economy will only further exacerbate the problems mentioned above.

They both brought chaos to the bureaucracy.

They both gave way the shop to their opponents for nothing.

DOGE = Perestroika (restructuring)

Using executive orders to open up files on JFK, UFO's, Jeff Epstein etc. = Glasnost (openess)
 

Abominable

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Let me guess how Trump wants 50% military spending reduction from the US, Russia, and China. There's already stories out how Trump is "planning" to reduce spending for the US which he's actually not. They say he's just moving money around not reducing spending at all. But for China he'll go by the US estimate of what China is really spending which has been in the news and thinks how he can do this to China. They say China is actually spending double what is the official number. So 50% is for China is what the US says China is spending which means China will have no money for the military every year while Trump will manipulate and lie how the US is reducing military spending. It's good that China already outright rejected the proposal.
50% of the US military budget is bloat. Unlike in other countries the US military is a massive welfare program. You only join the army to have your student debts paid off, or to pay for transgender surgery or to get a green card. There's no reason why someone who's only accomplishment is to spend a few months playing basketball and eating free KFC on a military base in Baghdad should have free healthcare for life when no one else in America gets it.

Honestly the US could cut the military budget by 50% if they were smart about it and see no reduction in capability. By focussing strictly on military matters and not DEI or gender ideology it could become more capable.

That is not the case for China or Russia where reducing the budget by 50% would be devastating.

I doubt a 50% cut will actually happen, too many people in Washington on the MIC gravy train to prevent that.
 
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Biscuits

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50% of the US military budget is bloat. Unlike in other countries the US military is a massive welfare program. You only join the army to have your student debts paid off, or to pay for transgender surgery or to get a green card. There's no reason why someone who's only accomplishment is to spend a few months playing basketball and eating free KFC on a military base in Baghdad should have free healthcare for life when no one else in America gets it.

Honestly the US could cut the military budget by 50% if they were smart about it and see no reduction in capability. By focussing strictly on military matters and not DEI or gender ideology it could become more capable.

That is not the case for China or Russia where reducing the budget by 50% would be devastating.

I doubt a 50% cut will actually happen, too many people in Washington on the MIC gravy train to prevent that.
The PLA's budget is pretty much divorced from whatever data they present.

Valuation of CV/CVN program, 093B, 2 6th gens, 2 5th gens etc. would easily go up into many trillions, with some of those programs being F-35 size.

China could arguably actually rather easily reduce budget proportionally to the same size as a reduced US budget, because the PLA budget is an infinitely deep black box to begin with.

The main rate limiting step for PLA expansion is manpower. Money/industry wise, it should be not hard to spam out 40 055 hulls for example, but there aren't that many trained destroyer crews to operate those (yet).
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Registered Member
Donald Trump will be the Mikhail Gorbachev of the United States.

Both came to power on a wave of popular discontent were a majority of the people are saying that "we cannot continue like this any longer and we need change" in the Soviet Union back then and in the United States now.

Both have brought radical changes but also fail to adress the underlying problems of the countries.

In the case of the USSR it was that the planned economy wasn't working the Soviet bureaucrats were always behind the curve of the markets. This created a situation of mass misallocation of resources and shotages of some items while overproducing others. And the problems has been further exacerbated by the arms race during the Cold War.

In the case of the United States is that the economy is increasingly dependent on the wealth effect created by asset price inflation like real estate, stocks, bonds and cryptos. This is creating mass misallocation of resources were the money used to support these assets are not going to things like infrastructure and industry. The asset bubbles in the economy are eating up the middle class, the infrastructure and industry. It is creating more debt, higher inflation, higher interest rates and lower productivity. The trade wars are also making things worse for the economy.

Donald Trump's calling for lower rates, weaker dollar, lower taxes for the corporations and the rich and more deregulation in the economy will only further exacerbate the problems mentioned above.

They both brought chaos to the bureaucracy.

They both gave way the shop to their opponents for nothing.

DOGE = Perestroika (restructuring)

Using executive orders to open up files on JFK, UFO's, Jeff Epstein etc. = Glasnost (openess)

Soviet Union in 1985:

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Soviet Union in 2025:

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Bad, bad Soviet Union.
 

iBBz

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It is pretty clear now Trump was never going to uphold his campaign promises regarding ending wars. He just announced that with the Ukraine rare earths deal, Ukraine would continue to receive military equipment until Putin surrenders and comes to the table. He is also failing to get Israel to honour their ceasefires and stop bombing everything in sight. This is nothing more than a ploy for Trump to look good for his voters. He wants and knows Russia and China will not agree to such agreements, so he can go back to his low IQ population and tells them "See? I tried peace but they didn't go for it, so now I need you to give me more of your money so we can build better military toys to fight the Commies and help our pale friend Musk take us to Mars.".

Also I'm not sure what the mechanism to enforce such agreements would be other than the US dictating terms to China and Russia on how many ships, planes, and nukes they can build annually or have in their arsenals total. This would involve invasive methods such as sending spies like Scott Ritter to ping high value targets to use as currency later etc.. The other problem is the US has a coalition of puppets that could easily compensate for the US 50% cuts by increasing their own MIC budgets and paying even more money for their own occupations in what Pete Hegseth called "Division of labour".

If Trump was really a man of peace, he would stand infront of his people and announce; without a catch, that the US is cutting its military budget by 50%, because it already is unnecessarily too high and wasteful. The US doesn't need that many soldiers around the world so we are closing some bases and bringing some soldiers and equipment back home, period.
 

SlothmanAllen

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The PLA's budget is pretty much divorced from whatever data they present.

Valuation of CV/CVN program, 093B, 2 6th gens, 2 5th gens etc. would easily go up into many trillions, with some of those programs being F-35 size.

China could arguably actually rather easily reduce budget proportionally to the same size as a reduced US budget, because the PLA budget is an infinitely deep black box to begin with.

The main rate limiting step for PLA expansion is manpower. Money/industry wise, it should be not hard to spam out 40 055 hulls for example, but there aren't that many trained destroyer crews to operate those (yet).

I don't really get the resistance to China having a large military budget. I think the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Obviously China has a huge manufacturing base which is going to make things cheaper to produce, but at the same time they are clearly doing military modernization and production at a massive scale. On top of that, many things military related do not necessarily benefit from commercial production. Also, China might not have successful commercial industries in all areas (e.x. turbofan production).

This is all to say I wouldn't be surprised if China has a massive military budget.
 
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