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Sinnavuuty

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Then you are absolutely wrong. Nuclear weapons armed SK and Japan are an absolute red line for China, especially given how slavish they worship America and are in turn controlled by it.

What assurances will China have that America will not use assets and useful idiots within the political and/or military leadership of either or both to launch a nuclear first strike against China and think they can get away with it by claiming those are Japanese and SK nukes and have nothing to do with America?
South Korean and Japanese politicians are not suicidal in starting a nuclear war against China under American proxy.

They may be idiots, but they are not suicidal.
 

Sinnavuuty

Captain
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The mere establishment of modernised missile bases and the construction of new large naval vessels by Japan and South Korea are viewed as grave provocations and threats to China. Should Japan and South Korea acquire nuclear weapons, this would signify the complete disruption of the security equilibrium surrounding China, constituting an intolerable and significant breach of China's sovereign security.
It does not constitute any violation of China's sovereign security, since if this happens, it will be under the American withdrawal from the region, so the only form of security that the ROK and Japan will have will be nuclear weapons, the balance will be maintained or even weigh on China's side, since the Japanese and South Korean latent nuclear capacity will be in a much smaller order of degree than the American one.
 

E100

Junior Member
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South Korean and Japanese politicians are not suicidal in starting a nuclear war against China under American proxy.

They may be idiots, but they are not suicidal.
*Most* aren't suicidal. But you have to remember these countries militaries are controlled by the US and in the case of SK directly controlled. All they need to do is launch one or create the impression that they are going to do it and it would start a chain reaction.
 

Michael90

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Why does the West fear the Chinese? Because Chinese have have their own culture. What have I’ve been saying in this forum? The West wants everyone to embrace Western values because they control what is valued in their culture. If you want what they want, you have to do what they say in order to get what they value. It’s about control. What is culture? It’s about what a group of people value. You can value the same things with the West like money. Who doesn’t like money? It’s not about money. It’s about control. Money is money. Every culture has currency but they don’t have the dollar. Just look at how the dollar plays in international politics and why it’s so important that the US wants everyone to use it. It gives the US control. You have to play ball under their rules that they control. It’s always been about having a means of control.
I don’t know what you are talking about.lol. The US/fear China because of Chinese culture? What kind of culture are you even talking about? lol

seriously dude, it’s not that deep. Moreover it’s the US that’s in rivalry and competition with China to maintain her world supremacy unchallenged. Other western countries just follow the US because it suits their interests and they have been benefiting from a US dominant world by riding on the power of the US. It has zero to do with “Chinese culture”. lol.
since the beginning of times reigning world power has always been reluctant to allow any other power to rise and challenge their position/rule , it doesn’t matter who that rising power was. Do you think Spain cared about British culture when Britain was rising to challenge Spanish dominion of the world ? Do you think Graeat Britain cared about Russian empire when they were engaged in the great game centuries ago for dominion over much of Middle East and mostly central/part of south Asia? Do you think Great Britain cared about German culture when Germany was rising prior to WWI and WWII? Do you think the USA CARED about Soviet Russian culture to try all means to stop them when the soviets were rising and challenging said superpower over the world? Do you think the USA CARED about even her ally Japans culture when Japan was threatening US technological and economic edge over the world in the late 70s to 90s? Etc etc. we can even go far back as the Middle Ages to say the same pattern
So it has zero to do with culture or whatsoever that means. It’s in the nature of nations and mankind to want to keep their privileges and supremacy when they achieve it. Has nothing to do with race or culture, and most of all it’s nothing personal against a particular country or race. So you need to understand that. If tomorrow India or Indonesia or whoever rose to be as powerful as China , she too will be treated the same way 100%.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I don’t know what you are talking about.lol. The US/fear China because of Chinese culture? What kind of culture are you even talking about? lol

seriously dude, it’s not that deep. Moreover it’s the US that’s in rivalry and competition with China to maintain her world supremacy unchallenged. Other western countries just follow the US because it suits their interests and they have been benefiting from a US dominant world by riding on the power of the US. It has zero to do with “Chinese culture”. lol.
since the beginning of times reigning world power has always been reluctant to allow any other power to rise and challenge their position/rule , it doesn’t matter who that rising power was. Do you think Spain cared about British culture when Britain was rising to challenge Spanish dominion of the world ? Do you think Graeat Britain cared about Russian empire when they were engaged in the great game centuries ago for dominion over much of Middle East and mostly central/part of south Asia? Do you think Great Britain cared about German culture when Germany was rising prior to WWI and WWII? Do you think the USA CARED about Soviet Russian culture to try all means to stop them when the soviets were rising and challenging said superpower over the world? Do you think the USA CARED about even her ally Japans culture when Japan was threatening US technological and economic edge over the world in the late 70s to 90s? Etc etc. we can even go far back as the Middle Ages to say the same pattern
So it has zero to do with culture or whatsoever that means. It’s in the nature of nations and mankind to want to keep their privileges and supremacy when they achieve it. Has nothing to do with race or culture, and most of all it’s nothing personal against a particular country or race. So you need to understand that. If tomorrow India or Indonesia or whoever rose to be as powerful as China , she too will be treated the same way 100%.
And where does all that come from? A lot of what the West says what they hate about China is communism. Well a lot of what they say hate about China was before communism ever existed. Communism is just the latest excuse. The real reason is an old and basic one and that is control. Race and culture are easy identifiers of those who they don't control and therefore automatically are seen as a threat. Westerners would go after each other if there were no other races because it's always about how much they do and don't control. And you just have to look at European history before colonialism to see that. It was no paradise... no "garden" of the world. That's why it was "medieval". Why is the West so race sensitive today is because the majority of the world is not their race. That's why racism is so much associated with the West. In this day and age the West needs resources that don't exist or don't have enough of naturally within their native homelands. Why do you think Europe tried colonizing the world? Was it just for plain evil fun? You want to admit that so you can escape admitting it was about control? The West has to play nice in the world and have to avoid looking like the monsters they were in the past. But countries like China are not as forgiving because actions speak louder than words. The West token gestures of humanity did not include the Chinese. And the West has such an intense history of hate of China because China chooses not to be controlled. Why do you think during the Cold War the Chinese were hated more than the Soviet Union where communism started? The West can't tell the truth why they hate China so they make up things like it's because of communism or human rights. How many things can be pointed out where the West defies their "values" they say they care about? Genocide in Gaza anyone? And who are the countries that see that? The countries the West doesn't control and the ones they see as their greatest threats today.
 
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