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People like Trump are complex characters and it's impossible to put them in a box. Trump is like the David Beckham of the political world, he's overrated by those that support him and underrated by those who don't. I say that to say this: he's not as stupid as you think and it's dangerous to underestimate him. You may be right that he doesn't think things through but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a broader strategic plan to focus on China. Like I said, he's playing nice with Russia at the moment because he wants to get them on side so China will be given maximum attention.
Trump as not as smart as you think either. If he was, then America would be winning as we speak.
 

4Tran

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Im not a conspiracy theorist at all. But im.asking myself questions why Trump has been so soft and eager to please Putin more than towards any other leader. Its kinda strange. Lol
It's really quite simple - Putin has a backbone, and he has the ability to stand up to Trump. Also, he acts the way that Trump would like to so there's a bit of push there as well. If you look a bit further afield, you'll find that Trump admires other leaders like Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping as well.

There's nothing strange about it. The Americans grew arrogant and thought they could take on Russia and China at the same time, when they realized that was foolish they came to their senses and reverted back to their standing rule of doing what they can to separate both by getting one onside and going after the other. They view China as their main threat so for them it makes sense to get Russia on their side and fully focus on China. In truth, the Americans don't know how to deal with China for two reasons: one, they don't really understand China and the Chinese mindset, in fact they don't understand non white mindset. They think everybody thinks like them and so their tactics consists of trying to bait China into doing something foolish as a pretext to create casus belli to unite the west against China. Unfortunately for them, the Chinese leadership can see through this and has constantly outmaneuvered them.

The second reason they don't know how to deal with China is because Americans only understand fighting a clear enemy that is in every way diametrically opposed to them. During the Cold War, the Soviets were easy to go against because they were the complete opposite of the US, they created a parallel system and lived in a separate world. Both sides were fighting to convince the rest that their system would prevail and history was going to be on their side. The Chinese leadership has learned from that folly and has embedded themselves in the existing system, controlling it from the inside out, how do you begin to fight that? Look at how even the most vocally anti-China folks have no choice but to do business with China (Milei, etc.) and even US "allies" are saying "no thanks" to Trump's request to reduce trade with China.
The US isn't necessarily trying to provoke China. They've been trying the same containment strategy they used against Russia and the Soviet Union. The big mistake is the one that you've identified: they don't know what the heck China is in the first place!

I hear a lot from commentators that China is looking to expand into the Pacific or how it's planning to be a world hegemon, and it's a made up belief that flies contrary to the evidence. China is so uninterested in becoming any type of hegemon that it only has one ally, and with no interest in getting any more. It even prefers relatively equal-equal partnerships than in senior-junior ones. And when your planners misunderstand your opponent by this much, how good are your strategies going to be?

The other, and even bigger misreading is that China isn't interested in any kind of fight with the US in the first place. And it only makes sense, once upon a time, China was terrified of getting invaded by the Soviet Union or the US, but those days are long past, and the PLA has been moved from a defensive stance to an offensive one. And with its territorial integrity secure, what in the world does China gain from going to war against the US? The only major question that's left is Taiwan, and Taiwan is not a problem that should be solved militarily anyways.

It's actually impressive how quickly America squandered its unipolar dominance after the USSR bit the dust.
It's precisely that the US was the sole superpower that they declined so quickly. If they had a tough opponent to deal with, then a lot of the corruption and poor moves would have been punished and rectified. But because poor performance was rewarded at every level, this became the norm, and there's no push back for improvement. Even now, there are strategy influencers who get away with trying to downplay China's capabilities so there's no reason for the US to worry!
 

SinoAmericanCW

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I hear a lot from commentators that China is looking to expand into the Pacific or how it's planning to be a world hegemon, and it's a made up belief that flies contrary to the evidence. China is so uninterested in becoming any type of hegemon that it only has one ally, and with no interest in getting any more. It even prefers relatively equal-equal partnerships than in senior-junior ones. And when your planners misunderstand your opponent by this much, how good are your strategies going to be?

The other, and even bigger misreading is that China isn't interested in any kind of fight with the US in the first place. And it only makes sense, once upon a time, China was terrified of getting invaded by the Soviet Union or the US, but those days are long past, and the PLA has been moved from a defensive stance to an offensive one. And with its territorial integrity secure, what in the world does China gain from going to war against the US? The only major question that's left is Taiwan, and Taiwan is not a problem that should be solved militarily anyways.
I do think it makes sense for China, not so much to *expand* into the Pacific, but rather to clear the U.S. *from* the (Western) Pacific and secure military hegemony over the region, in something approximating the position the U.S. has attained in the Western hemisphere.

To do otherwise would condemn China, for the foreseeable future, to constant military tensions and arms racing within its own neighborhood.
 

SlothmanAllen

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tomorrow will be interesting
What will he be able to do? All of the European leaders are attending the meeting with Zelensky. That is a total rebuke of Trumps attempt at a peace process. We've already seen the Trump regime attempt to bully Zelensky in a public manner. I cannot see that happening again and I don't see the US being able to bully all of the European powers together.
 
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