Trump 2.0 official thread
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No reliable source for this one, it's basically a point about mutual respect, but distorted by the story
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manqiangrexue
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This sounds like stock market manipulation. I've seen many media outlets report this. None of them cite any Chinese official or official statement. Their source is literally the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and they all cite this "source."
" China wants to see a number of steps from President Donald Trump’s administration before it will agree to trade talks, including showing more respect by reining in disparaging remarks by members of his cabinet, according to a person familiar with the Chinese government’s thinking."
"Citing a person familiar with the Chinese government’s thinking, Bloomberg also reported that Beijing would like to see a more consistent U.S. position on trade and a willingness to discuss Chinese concerns around sanctions and Taiwan."
In fairness, you can't trust any of the current US vassals to grow a spine, including the EU (where i reside btw).
Despite their warmongering and rhetoric, the EU really just meekly and sheepishly follow US policies, the Greenland example serving to show how pathetic they are. Not one peep. They are getting increasing good at censoring and oppressing their own people if god forbid they do not agree with EU's policies though, be it continually fanning the war in Ukraine, unconditional support for the israeli regime and so on.
So China must be prepared for this likely eventuality.
Could be pump and dump imo, but quite amount of accounts are carrying water
Sounds like they are making concentratied hopium.
It the same shit like Trump claiming he is in constant contact with Putin and Xi, as if they are calling each other like old friends.
Its just combining two headline yesturday where China says US had to show China reepect if they want to talk (aka drop all tariff, already explicitly stated) and China replacing trade head, then inserting their delusion that its about them and not EU or ASEAN.
EU will be rich with Chinese goods?? Respond to me again when EU signs a free trade deal with China.
And yes the smaller countries are nothing.
We regularly look down on the Koreans, Vietnamese etc. To quote some of the past comments from this forum: “the entire manufacturing capacity of Vietnam is smaller than one province in China.” So Trump is right, they are nothing.
First of all I don’t think that was his point, you seem to be quite selective in your reading and assessment of what he wrote.
Secondly, should the EU chooses not to sign whatever deal with the US, it is an automatic US lost, due to failing the entire objective of the exercise.
Thirdly, what he is saying actually make a lot of sense, Trump has either intentionally or unintentionally leaked part of, if not the entire purpose of this whole trade war, this in the form of the isolation of China, therefore his entire tariff strat is basically done as leverage. The EU only needs to deny this single objective and Trump’s trade war is done and frankly his hand is not very strong, with regards to this particular point, the EU needs to have a relationship with China far more than they do with the US. Therefore the leverage is on the EU’s side.
The smaller countries might not amount to much individually but they collectively is different story, also even here the US’s hand is weaker than China’s, the US seeks to have manufacturing onshore in US, meaning the market that the US represents will mean nothing, because ultimately manufacturing and industry will have nothing to do with those smaller countries.
At the same time China is still a growing market and eventually some of the lower end industries will have to go off shore, so the smaller countries that are still on the industrialisation path still have a chance that the US will not present and even deny to them. Again there is simply no upside with the US, no matter how you try to look at it.
The tariff is ultimately a here and now problem, but what the US wants is a long term problem with little to no upside even in short term with lower tariffs, since remember the tariffs are not going away no matter what is being negotiated.