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FriedButter

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Trump announces 25% tariffs on all cars ‘not made in the United States’​

President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he would impose 25% tariffs on “all cars that are not made in the United States.”

Trump said there is “absolutely no tariff” for cars that are built in the U.S.

The new tariffs were codified in a presidential proclamation that Trump signed in the Oval Office. They will go into effect April 2, and “we start collecting April 3,” he said.

Trump White House aide Will Scharf said the new tariffs apply to “foreign-made cars and light trucks.” He clarified that they come in addition to duties that are already in place.

Scharf said the tariffs will result in “over $100 billion of new annual revenue” to the U.S.

Specifics about the proclamation were not immediately clear. Most vehicles are assembled from thousands of parts that may originate from dozens of different countries.

Trump said there will be “very strong policing” on which parts of a car are hit with tariffs.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen quickly criticized the new U.S. tariffs and vowed that the European Union “will continue to seek negotiated solutions, while safeguarding its economic interests.”

“Tariffs are taxes — bad for businesses, worse for consumers equally in the US and the European Union,” she said in a statement.

Auto stocks fell in after-hours trading following Trump’s announcement. Shares of General Motors, Stellantis and Ford Motor all lost roughly 5% in extended trading.

Trump on March 5 gave those automakers, known as the “Big Three,” a one-month exemption from his 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada for vehicles that comply with an existing North American trade deal known as the USMCA.

Trump had previously hinted that new auto tariffs could arrive before April 2, the day his sweeping “reciprocal tariff” plan is set to begin.

“We’ll be announcing that fairly soon over the next few days, probably, and then April 2 comes, that’ll be reciprocal tariffs,” he said at a Cabinet meeting Monday.

Trump has long signaled his plans to impose heavy tariffs on foreign trading partners. But his unpredictable and frequently shifting policy rollouts have stirred turmoil in the stock market and left business leaders uncertain about how to plan for the future.

Trump has hyped April 2 as “liberation day” and “the big one.” His plan, as originally described, would slap reciprocal tariffs on all countries that have their own import duties on U.S. goods, while also imposing tariffs in response to other disfavored trade policies, such as the use of value-added taxes.

But Trump and his officials have recently suggested that the tariffs coming April 2 could end up being softer than they first appeared.

Trump said Friday that “there’ll be flexibility” on those tariffs, and on Tuesday night suggested the duties will be more “lenient than reciprocal.” Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said last week that countries can pre-negotiate with the U.S. to avoid facing new tariffs on April 2.

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LazyYew

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If companies really go to US to manufacture, attached w the promise of tax inentives etc... how will US gov replace the lost income from supposed tariff?
If they really moved to US to manufacture, they would need to buy resources (pay tax), hire employee (employee salary are taxed), utility (tax again), etc. These would help them get revenue, improve job prospect for the local, improve local spending, etc. There are plenty of other income revenue from it.
 

Michael90

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I guess you failed to realize that the key point is identifying with the occupiers. Imperial Japan failed miserably at getting the Chinese to identify with them. Meanwhile, Japan and SK, both effectively under US occupation, are quite comfortable acting as its lapdogs.
But they succeeded in Taiwan though. If not for Japan being defeated by the allies Taiwan would remain Japanese to this day. In fact Taiwanese are very pro Japan even to this day. So yeah you are right occupation can be good I guess. Lol
 

solarz

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But they succeeded in Taiwan though. If not for Japan being defeated by the allies Taiwan would remain Japanese to this day. In fact Taiwanese are very pro Japan even to this day. So yeah you are right occupation can be good I guess. Lol

The Japanese were just as cruel in Taiwan. It's the DPP who has successfully brainwashed the younger generation into forgetting about this. The KMT also bears responsibility for failing to clean out the Japanese collaborators.
 

Eventine

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Japan was successful in brain washing people in Taiwan because they colonized them before Chinese nationalism even awakened.

Prior to the 20th century, only elites had a sense of collective identity - commoners identified only with their local villages and towns. They had no sense of being members of a larger Chinese nation, as there was no public education, literacy, or even a shared language among lower classes. For nationalism to emerge, those conditions must first be met, and they were not met in China.

It was the Japanese that brought those ingredients to Taiwan. They introduced public education, literacy, and a shared language - Japanese. For the local Taiwanese - the back bone of DPP supporters - this was their very first experience with nation-building, but it was Japanese nation-building, designed to convert the locals into loyal Imperial Japanese subjects, and it largely worked because there was no competing national identity to erase. It's a lot easier to fill an empty glass.

This is also why the KMT had to use such oppressive policies in order to erase this Japanese identity from the Taiwanese, and why they ultimately failed to replace it with a Chinese one. Having already been indoctrinated into their first national identity of being loyal Japanese, the cognitive dissonance of then being told that they're actually Chinese and were tricked into becoming Japanese, was too much for the mind to handle.

It caused a split in Taiwanese self-identity - a fraction accepted that they're really Chinese and embraced it, while others resisted it and either held onto being Japanese, or decided they were neither Chinese nor Japanese. Compare this to mainland Chinese, who for the last century or so had an almost exclusively Chinese national experience, and it's no wonder why Taiwanese ended up this way.
 
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