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W20

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US power

Washington's despotic power has two pillars

(A) The network of rewards and punishments so that sales agents (aka "politician") do not even think of going off script and dedicate their efforts to collaborating with the political-media show industry to the entertainment and confusion of the plebs

(B) The payment system based on the dollar
 

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Tiberius Gracchus was the grandson of General Scipio who defeated Carthage, that is, he was the grandson of one of the founders of the power of Rome, he was from the same core of the Roman aristocracy and, nevertheless, they beat him to death with a good number of his followers and then they killed his brother

Power exists

Tiberius Gracchus clashed with Rome
"the Nazarene" clashed with Jerusalem
JFK clashed with Washington
 

W20

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The West

Washington = Jerusalem + Rome

Donald Likud Trump, like Joe Caligula Biden, will feed the show and throw some bones and some fruit peel to the plebs to entertain them and thus maintain the interest of the audience in the insufferable Western political show

But this old ship, colossal, deadly and decadent empire, last version of the Roman Empire, will continue heading towards its future scrapyard
 

generalmeng

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China loses big time on trade yet it is the no1 economy and booming, while US fell from the top spot and is stagnant.

How hard is it to understand that neither money or piles of goods give you power??? Being able to make goods, the process of invention/creation/production is what gives you power. If you're a perpetual importer, you have no control over technology, total dependence on just taking whatever foreigners decide that you get. When they're in a good mood, they'll give you decent goods in exchange for your "green toilet paper", when they're not, they'll keep the best for themselves while raising the prices, and your consumers won't afford anything while they'll be a generation behind the producers. Coincidentally, that's the exact situation with the living cost crisis in US.

Taken to the extreme, Gulf Arabs are the greatest green toilet paper merchants in the world. They have no tech and no industry on their own. They get everything from sovereign fund trade. So they are the kings of the world just because everyone gives them gold plated BMWs etc for their toilet paper?

"Dollar supremacy" theorists have no explanation for why gulf Arabs don't dominate the region, likewise they have no explanation for why China dominates the global economy. Because the whole premise of "currency = power, therefore huge sovereign funds = huge power" is a complete fraud. None of the Arab toilet paper can buy them better military or tech scene than Israel. None of the American toilet paper can buy them a 6th gen fighter or a leading drone manufacturer.

US' residual power comes from its ability to produce, not from currency. If it lost even those tech/industry fields, they are finished.
It is important to note, it is not the outsourcing manufacturing to china that caused USA to decline, but rather the inability of USA to educate their population and maintain the high tech lead.

Had usa invest their resources into development of their own population, USA might have been able to maintain the lead in high tech innovation.

USA instead export low end manufacturing to China, USA decided to keep their population dumb so the elite can continue to milk their population. Remember it is consumer economy and the population is essentially slaves in making fake money (so they can buy more useless shit).
 

Biscuits

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It is important to note, it is not the outsourcing manufacturing to china that caused USA to decline, but rather the inability of USA to educate their population and maintain the high tech lead.
Those two are the same problem. In the first place, China managed to climb past US in industrial tech because of education. While things were neck to neck around the 2000-2010s, instead of investing into the new generation, US decided to choose a lot of various sabotage, but it doesn't work when you just have worse human capital doing these plans. Instead, what they de facto ended up doing was just retreating into their own state media and cope with alternative facts.
Had usa invest their resources into development of their own population, USA might have been able to maintain the lead in high tech innovation.
Education spawns invention. Invention then spawns industry. Industry is the rising tide that lifts all boats. Increase wages, increase tech implementation, compounds improve education etc.
USA instead export low end manufacturing to China, USA decided to keep their population dumb so the elite can continue to milk their population. Remember it is consumer economy and the population is essentially slaves in making fake money (so they can buy more useless shit).
Consumer economy is not a negative, China is also a consumer economy. The negative is when youre forced to rely on foreign goods and knowhow. Then there is a negative spiral where high end companies can't recruit/be started from your country, giving you even less industry, making you even more dependent on foreign tech.

US' power comes from still having some industries, in sectors like GPUs they are as dominant as China is in EVs, rare earths, semiconductors etc. If US didn't have those industries, they would be as lame as EU.
 

uguduwa

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Technological lead the US has over China could be significantly lower by the end of the mess that this administration causes. It would be interesting to see a cold war type conflict developing between China and the US as somewhat equal competitors. That is if the US manages to recover from the nose dive it is in at the moment.
 

PandaAI

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Technological lead the US has over China could be significantly lower by the end of the mess that this administration causes. It would be interesting to see a cold war type conflict developing between China and the US as somewhat equal competitors. That is if the US manages to recover from the nose dive it is in at the moment.

China is surpassing the US industry by industry. By 2035 there won’t be any technology China is behind the world.
 

Biscuits

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Technological lead the US has over China could be significantly lower by the end of the mess that this administration causes. It would be interesting to see a cold war type conflict developing between China and the US as somewhat equal competitors. That is if the US manages to recover from the nose dive it is in at the moment.
To stay in the game, US would need a nation building disruption event. US has lead in less tech fields than China has, which inevitably means if things go on linearly, China's larger tech lead will compound into US losing even the niches where they used to lead. It's very hard to fight back against a general lead from a niche lead, as SK and Japan have found out.

Weirdly enough, instead of investing into national building, the next US regime seems to be a disruptor... But in the opposite direction of building up.

I find it hard to understand why Trump can't just maintain Biden's rule of inaction. Surely not doing anything is better than doing things that actively worsen you.
 

uguduwa

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China is surpassing the US industry by industry. By 2035 there won’t be any technology China is behind the world.
Unfortunately I have to agree but the US still maintains a massive lead in some key industries like semiconductor and aerospace. These areas would be the ones to warch in the coming years.

I myself am eager to watch strong competition between the two.
 

manqiangrexue

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Unfortunately I have to agree but the US still maintains a massive lead in some key industries like semiconductor and aerospace. These areas would be the ones to warch in the coming years.

I myself am eager to watch strong competition between the two.
The US has no lead at all in semiconductors; if it did, it wouldn't be trying to steal TSMC. The US makes some components for ASML; that's it. It doesn't have the tech to create a complete and competitive lithograph and even with that, it doesn't know how to make cutting edge chips. As per Dr. Liang, China has already the design for 3nm chips; the lithograph we make ourselves too, but are still catching up to ASML. China is the only country in the world that has and is improving a completely indigenous semiconductor production chain. The US is nothing in this field other than a few pieces of a very large and complicated puzzle.

In civilian aerospace, the US still has the lead, but civilian aerospace is all about money and efficiency getting around. All of that yields to politics if we start to ban each others' ships and planes like Trump is about to do.

In military aerospace... I don't think so. I don't see America flying any 6th gen fighters.
 
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